Snapnames offering .co.uk catching

[diablo]

Snapnames are now offering a catching service for .co.uk and .cn names.

 

[RobM]

Wonder how this will work.

 

[diablo]

Not 100% sure yet. .co.uk hasn't been added to their search from what I can see, but got this email:

"Getting the right .CO.UK and .CN domains has never been so easy! .CO.UK and .CN dropping domains are now available on the SnapNames marketplace.

With our award winning technology, we'll target the domains you need to move your business and brand to the next level.

To ensure you don’t miss out on target .CO.UK and .CN domains, simply place backorders using the SnapNames search tool."

Surprised it has taken them this long to spot the potential of .uk drops.

 

[grantw]

Surprised it has taken them this long to spot the potential of .uk drops.

They've been offering .co.uk catching for years, by reselling BB-ONLINE services. That relationship ended a while ago and since then they've been trying to use their own TAG. It's been a mess, domains being registered to the wrong people, wrong address etc. Hopefully they've worked out how things work now!

Guess they could also be angling to become the main platform for registrar retained dropping .uk domains, once the registrar agreement has been changed.

Grant

 

[foz]

They snaffled some the other day that I was scanning for.

Whether they are premium good remains to be seen.

 

[RobM]

As long as they're only using one tag and not 'colluding'

 

[RobM]

I could work something out.
For example, in the last year there have been approx 895k drops out of which about 162k were at 123 reg. Is that what you mean?

 

[Skinner]

Little additional work for Rob (if he's willing) but I think it would be interesting to see something a step on, like there were 895,000 drops, 162,000 were 123-Reg, and 30,000 were re-registered, the actual number of re-registrations would be interesting.

Lastly compare the top 20 to the total number of reregistrations, its this percentage I'd be concerned with, this will show exactly what percentage of those worth something to someone, wouldn't be released, if that makes sense ?

 

[RobM]

Well these were the top 15. I should add though there are about 20k domains that I didn't register a tag for (I don't know why). You could split these over the top according to % or ignore them.
18.11% 123-REG
8.2% LIVEDOMAINS
7.64% DETAGGED
6.09% GODADDY
4.62% NAMESCO
3.21% ENOM
3.07% HEARTINTERNET
2.93% GBBOBT
2.74% TUCOWS-CA
2.51% UK2NET
2.28% LCN
1.55% DAILY
1.42% MONSTER
1.41% WEBCONSULTANCY
1.04% TJNF-DK

It's interesting that these 15 tags had over 60% of all the drops observed in the last 12 months. This doesn't of course mean that this is the % of all domains currently registered with them.
I should also add that I don't have specific registration details on any of the domains beyond what is available on the DAC nor can I supply any reference to them.

 

[redbird]

Perhaps now is the time for DomainLore, DomainView etc to contact these registrars to try to form deals to run their auctions?

Could that be what Denys's **SOON** is ?
The suspense is killing me......

 

[monaghan]

1.41% WEBCONSULTANCY - Web Consultancy

Probably won't change the stats that much, but these guys said they were now 123-reg when phoning me a while back complaining that I'd caught one of their names and they were having technical problems with the TAG.

 

[RobM]

It will be interesting considering that when I was running an auction model at £15 people complained that they wouldn't order unless they were guaranteed it would be theirs. Can't see people really going for the $69 option at snapnames.

 

[foz]

Thanks for sharing RobM.

 

[Skinner]

I've just finished analyzing and running my own database, my database was built early 2013, so I can analyse around 10ish months of drops and I have around 5m entries, so not as complete as RobM's.

In those 10ish months caught on the day of drop ONLY, there are a small single figure percentage of names registered in the few days after drop but I'm ignoring them to try and narrow it down to drop catchers and names perceived as valuable.

I can only find 23,685 cases which match, which works out at around 75-80 average per day, the few days after drop only adds around 10-20 per day.

I made a slight fluff on the code, and forgot to log the original tags, so around 80% of the list processed before I realised, so the data isn't much use (and I've not been able to run a working sql query )

The top 6 TAGs from the 24k names are

3DWeb 3,826 - 16.15%
Sonexo 1,737 - 7.33%
123 Reg 1,626 - 6.87%
Crazydomains 1,659 - 7.0%
GoDaddy 949 - 4.01%
Monster 771 - 3.26%

 

[Skinner]

Yeah the tags are the tag which caught the dropped names.

I figured the more interesting data was how small the list of caught names is.

I only have 9,000 total entries where I logged the old and new tag, it looks like lots of them are tag changes from sales etc.

My MySQL skills are lacking here, I'm thinking maybe I could load each of the 24k names, compare it to the historic data, see if if its in there then add the old tag. I'll work on it when I have time

Edit:
I started with approx 1.6m names which are the names past expiry between when my database was created and when I started this scan. Unfortunately by the time I realised my code error I don't have renewed/dropped etc stats. Another little piece of the puzzle tho.

 

[Simon]

It will be interesting considering that when I was running an auction model at £15 people complained that they wouldn't order unless they were guaranteed it would be theirs. Can't see people really going for the $69 option at snapnames.

Depends what the name is.. Just had a look at your service. It seems confusing to me, and sounds like if I catch a domain with you and it goes to auction and sells I dont get the domain and still get charged £15. Perhaps others also find it confusing?

With .com/net/org domains certain registrars are affiliated with moniker so the domains only goes to snapnames. If you dont go with them you dont have a choice; .uk obviously is a different kettle of fish... at the moment.

Out of interest has anyone caught a .co.uk with snapnames.
Or seen them catch one.
And does anyone know where to find the dropcatching service with godaddy? Never realised they offered this on .co.uk

 

[DaveP]

I tried to book a co.uk with Snapnames but couldn't get it to work, and so I emailed their support and heard nothing back.. I haven't seen them catch anything yet either.

 

[Skinner]

I just added one to my cart, went to check out, all but paid. Seems to be working here ?

As bbonline they caught quite a few nice names.

 

[RobM]

Depends what the name is.. Just had a look at your service. It seems confusing to me, and sounds like if I catch a domain with you and it goes to auction and sells I dont get the domain and still get charged £15. Perhaps others also find it confusing?

Where does it say this? More importantly *why* would I catch a domain, charge you some money, and not give you the domain?
The auction model I'm referring to though is when we used to catch in the early days and anyone could order a domain (ie not one order per domain). People didn't want to order a domain and then have it go to auction even though it meant that people could backorder domains that were long gone at every other catcher.

 

[Skinner]

I think he's mixing up the hosted chasing, and back ordering Rob.