The longer you sit on it..

[julian]

perhaps the less a domain becomes worth..

The net is constantly moving forward - many domainers are still hoarding in hope of the monster sale - so developers and start-ups just find an alternative to get the job done - they don't care about the 'purity' like we do.

 

[Blossom]

I see it more like a chain. Any one domain gets passed from owner to owner, it all depends where you are and what you do with your placing. In that respect you may still make a good profit, but not the most it has ever/does ever sell for. The question is whether you're happy to make any kind of profit or whether you're trying to hold out for the biggest likely sale.

 

[namealot]

perhaps the less a domain becomes worth..

The net is constantly moving forward - many domainers are still hoarding in hope of the monster sale - so developers and start-ups just find an alternative to get the job done - they don't care about the 'purity' like we do.

Often true but in a domainers mind they just increase in value... ignore they couldn’t achieve asking price year after year or that business is managing to exist without it or that technology, likes of “G” etc are paying less and less attention to them many stays blissfully ignorant..

 

[websaway]

Often true but in a domainers mind they just increase in value... ignore they couldn’t achieve asking price year after year or that business is managing to exist without it or that technology, likes of “G” etc are paying less and less attention to them many stays blissfully ignorant..

The problem with domain discussions is that some people lump everything into one category "domains" I can register xxxyztr.net today, It's a domain, but you can't lump it in with computer.net or mobilephone.net
Imagine if we tried to assess the art market and lumped in a drawing ( stuck on someones fridge that the 4 year old child has scribbled ) together with works by monet and constable.
You have great domains, you have good domains, and you have other domains and they are massively different markets. That's why some domains are a hold, some domains are a get rid of, and some domains should never have become domains in the first place.

 

[WalkinDude]

Apparently 200 million domains have been registered approximating to $2billion a year in registration fees. Of these only 14million are worth anything and i'd guestimate only 20% of those are worth say $1000 or more. .

Some say the 80/20 rule applies. 80% of what you own is worthless junk or only has luck value and 20% is worth something. The skill is deciding which domains fall into which category.

 

[websaway]

Apparently 200 million domains have been registered approximating to $2billion a year in registration fees. Of these only 14million are worth anything and i'd guestimate only 20% of those are worth say $1000 or more. .

Some say the 80/20 rule applies. 80% of what you own is worthless junk or only has luck value and 20% is worth something. The skill is deciding which domains fall into which category.

Where this theory breaks down is the fact that a very large percentage of quality domains, maybe 90%, are held by a very small percentage of domainers, maybe only 5%, so the averages would not be in the least consistent.

 

[websaway]

perhaps the less a domain becomes worth..

The net is constantly moving forward - many domainers are still hoarding in hope of the monster sale - so developers and start-ups just find an alternative to get the job done - they don't care about the 'purity' like we do.

That's something that won't change.
Because everyone can't afford a Rolex, doesn't mean Rolex reduce their prices to compete with £20 watches.
And you won't stop people buying £20 watches.

The market is big enough though for quality domains.

 

[WalkinDude]

No judging from the portfolios and lists i've seen put up here i'd say an 80/20 split is about right. It is very complicated, because some people are just better sellers and can over price their domains and others are clueless when it comes to marketing their domains. Then if you factor in people only post stuff they don't actually want. I've been pleasantly surprised so far that nearly everyone has domains with some value to them and have yet to see anyone with 100% total junk.

 

[namealot]

That's something that won't change.
Because everyone can't afford a Rolex, doesn't mean Rolex reduce their prices to compete with £20 watches.
And you won't stop people buying £20 watches.

The market is big enough though for quality domains.

With the likes of Rolex is about “brand” through in exclusivity, snobbery, ignorance etc years of marketing etc andend product that has a real value...
What intrinsic value or marketing etc does an undeveloped domain have…? domains are not long term..

Buying and sitting might be prosperous of the 141,million regged tlds and 80 million cctld I’d say less than 0. 1% and that number shrinks each year... Look at whats big atm with social media etc tweet buy this the name becomes immaterial they just click on the link…? Most people couldn’t even tell you the domain there on..

 

[websaway]

With the likes of Rolex is about “brand” through in exclusivity, snobbery, ignorance etc years of marketing etc andend product that has a real value...
What intrinsic value or marketing etc does an undeveloped domain have…? domains are not long term..

Buying and sitting might be prosperous of the 141,435,203 regged I’d say less than 0. 1% and that number shrinks each year... Look at whats big atm with social media etc tweet buy this the name becomes immaterial they just click on the link…? Most people couldn’t even tell you the domain there on..

Bit cynicle, Rolex also make good watches you know, and building and maintaining the brand is about quality,quality in design, quality in production and quality in marketing.

Good generic domain names do have intrinsic brand value. So long as the extension has been brand built. So therefore ladies dot com or cars dot com
are unquestionably precious domains. And your thinking on the future of domains versus social media is like saying the motor car market will collapse as soon as the bus companies get their act together.

I remember someone saying to me in 2000 that he didn't need a website as he got enough passing trade. Well the trade did pass and he's now out of business ( he was wrong then and your equally wrong now) Every business should have the strongest generic domain relating to their business that economics permit.

 

[namealot]

Bit cynicle, Rolex also make good watches you know, and building and maintaining the brand is about quality,quality in design, quality in production and quality in marketing.

Good generic domain names do have intrinsic brand value. So long as the extension has been brand built. So therefore ladies dot com or cars dot com
are unquestionably precious domains. And your thinking on the future of domains versus social media is like saying the motor car market will collapse as soon as the bus companies get their act together.

I remember someone saying to me in 2000 that he didn't need a website as he got enough passing trade. Well the trade did pass and he's now out of business ( he was wrong then and your equally wrong now) Every business should have the strongest generic domain relating to their business that economics permit.

Why do you think big money doesn’t go into domains do they trade them are the large corporations buying them all up there not an investment….. Millions of business don’t need a domain... You say they should have the best they can afford what about second third forth etc they start to become irrelevant should they all close up if they don’t have the generic or one of the top terms 100 they can’t all have one…

I’m not saying domains can’t make £ or you can’t make a business from them but its were so many “domaineers" live in cloud cuckoo land.. There aren’t many business that put there goods up for sale everyone that looks at them offers less than they want and they carry on being on the shelf but the owner thinks there increasing all the time

 

[websaway]

Why do you think big money doesn’t go into domains do they trade them are the large corporations buying them all up there not an investment….. Millions of business don’t need a domain... You say they should have the best they can afford what about second third forth etc they start to become irrelevant should they all close up if they don’t have the generic or one of the top terms 100 they can’t all have one…

I’m not saying domains can’t make £ or you can’t make a business from them but its were so many “domaineers" live in cloud cuckoo land.. There aren’t many business that put there goods up for sale everyone that looks at them offers less than they want and they carry on being on the shelf but the owner thinks there increasing all the time

Just to keep things in perspective.

You cannot corner the market, people have tried and it doesn't work.

Of course every business needs a domain name.
And when I say a business should have the best generic domain relating to their business that economics allow, remember everybody can't or don't need to have their finance business on Wall Street but you bet they have the best address they can get for their purpose.

There are people who are deluded when it comes to the value of their domains, I do though believe that there is no upper limit to what a very good domain can sell for.