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[domaingenius]

Ed, as you will see in the posting at the general section on this forum Web touts face £5,000 fines | The Register

This has implications for ND,Sedo et al and I think we need to be sure that our domains do not carry adverts for such touts as the wording of this law makes it an offence simply to have the advert on your website !

Regards
DG

 

[NameDriver]

Hi DG,

That's very interesting.

These new measures are the most stringent laws against ticket touting anywhere in the world

Gotta love living in the UK. We have written to our Google contact and informed them of this change and asked them to ensure that these kinds of advertising do not appear on the page. This is as much a danger for Google as for anyone else, and they normally react strongly - some may say all too strongly - in situations like this. We do not have any control over the individual advertisements which appear on the page, but if anyone has any concerns, we'd be happy to pass them onto our Google contact immediately.

Thanks for the heads up DG.

Ed

 

[domaingenius]

Hi DG,

That's very interesting.


Gotta love living in the UK. We have written to our Google contact and informed them of this change and asked them to ensure that these kinds of advertising do not appear on the page. This is as much a danger for Google as for anyone else, and they normally react strongly - some may say all too strongly - in situations like this. We do not have any control over the individual advertisements which appear on the page, but if anyone has any concerns, we'd be happy to pass them onto our Google contact immediately.

Thanks for the heads up DG.

Ed

Ed, I just checked one of my ticket related websites and see that 2 adverts are for .co.uk football ticket resellers. They advised me "we are not going to stop until we are told to" . I said that they would be "told to" when the police come and arrest them and charge them. They said we are US Based and their attitude was they couldnt give a damn. I think that this one is going to run and run and I think an immediate crackdown by the police is inevitable.

Regards

DG

 

[NameDriver]

Hmm. Interesting that they're based elsewhere, meaning they have no incentive to stop their practices.
So it seems that the government is going to go after the websites rather than after the touts themselves. Another great British law going after the wrong people. We'll impress on Google the need to get rid of these ads. I own some names of this nature too, so it will be interesting to see the developments.

Ed

 

[Nigel]

Seems like an incredibly poor and ill thought out piece of legislation by this control obsessed government. How on earth does a search engine or domain owner stop an 'unauthorised agent' putting up a third party link for 'football tickets' under an unconnected keyword like 'sports tickets' or 'event tickets'. Looks like a legal minefield.

 

[domaingenius]

The problem I see is that some websites are selling all manner of tickets including Football ones so how the F are you meant to know that ?. In effect we could have banners advertising these companies without knowing it.

I was going to take this further ,in that I wonder out loud whether Nominet themselves could be held responsible when they allow a domain like say "footballtickets.co.uk" as promoting an illegal act ?. It is, as Nigel says, becoming a legal minefield.

DG

 

[NameDriver]

We are still at the very beginning of the Internet, legally speaking, and there have been a large number of cack-handed attempts at assuming some control over what has become a runaway success for crime and fraud as nothing has been done to protect customers in the past. Just reading the article:

"The transfer of touting from the street corner to the internet rendered the original legislation out of date," said Lord Pendry, a peer who backed the new law. "These new measures are the most stringent laws against ticket touting anywhere in the world"

Not wishing to sound agesit, but I wonder just how much time Lord Pendry spends on the Internet and how much he knows about it.
The problem is a young, baffling industry facing legislation from people who simply don't understand it. If you ask a non-domainer about who should be punished here, it's easy to say 'well the website owner for putting stuff like this on there', but the reality is very different.
I think we're going to see a lot more of this kind of thing before it gets better.

Ed

 

[domaingenius]

We are still at the very beginning of the Internet, legally speaking, and there have been a large number of cack-handed attempts at assuming some control over what has become a runaway success for crime and fraud as nothing has been done to protect customers in the past. Just reading the article:

Not wishing to sound agesit, but I wonder just how much time Lord Pendry spends on the Internet and how much he knows about it.
The problem is a young, baffling industry facing legislation from people who simply don't understand it. If you ask a non-domainer about who should be punished here, it's easy to say 'well the website owner for putting stuff like this on there', but the reality is very different.
I think we're going to see a lot more of this kind of thing before it gets better.

Ed

ED, I have had the misfortune to spend a LOT of time in Court from County Court up to Court of Appeal (a also ECHR) on civil claims, and I can tell you that MOST Judges are completely and utterley useless, and doubly so in regard to the internet. Think of them as that miserable old codger that lives in your street and is always shouting at the kids to behave and knows nothing but his own life from 1930 something. THAT is how closeted they are ,but I must say I have met some good exceptions (who ruled in my favour ).
According to one Judge it was possible for "mickey mouse" (pseudonym) to be libelled (on the internet) and a person to claim damages for that even though it would take a Court Order and more to identify who "mickey mouse" was. So I doubt that any common sense decisions will be made and it will be down to whether the police are malicious enough to issue proceedings.

DG