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Discussion in '.UK Domain Name Consultations' started by Marcoose, Sep 27, 2012.

  1. Lovekraft United Kingdom

    Lovekraft Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Further to my last comment i.e. they will definitely go ahead with it in some form. I hope i am wrong, some of you have made a good job in making a case for why it is in fact dead with a little added spin to hide their embarrassment. You might just be right on second thoughts.
     
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    I would have thought this comedy of errors could only strengthen your hand.
     
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    Same here, if it had gone ahead, I was about to cancel hundred of domains, I'd also not be renewing my Nominet membershi/TAG either. They need to be difinitive in what they say, not further statements about we might do this or we might do that, nobody is interested in them saving face, they'll get more credit just being up front about it, planks.
     
  5. websaway United Kingdom

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    I appreciate your apprehension, I feel the same way. But it's a little bit like you know countries have a nuclear bomb but you way up the reasons why they won't use it.
     
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    Seriously, no one called for this, it was put to sleep many years ago until some idiot decided to try pushing it through.

    The whole exercise is a demonstration of misplaced trust in an organisation no longer fit for purpose, and clearly unable to distinguish where the acceptable lines in the sand are drawn!
     
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    Wouldn't you have been leaping about for joy if direct.uk had been given the go ahead? I'm sure you said something about it to this effect earlier on in the discussions. Possibly to do with being able to secure some juicy domain names!? ;)
     
  8. anthony United Kingdom

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    I'm sure that's your take on it, I think I suggested I had five or so generics I'd go for if the inevitable happened. If you think I was different to anyone else who will have had contingency plans, your being very naive.

    You're also missing the fact that I'm open to persuasive argument in this huge thread, just like anyone else, I don't see what is wrong with changing ones opinion as the realities are laid out over a period of time. I also don't see you highlighting Edwin's argument at that time for grandfather rights in the early days, until he dropped that in favour of a more hard-line stance! If those grandfather rights had been given the nod by Nominet early in the process, I seriously doubt many here would have been anywhere near as altruistic as they have been.

    And before you jump to Nominet's defence of persuasive argument over time, they were the supposed experts and quite simply they should already have known better from day one!
     
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  9. thecat United Kingdom

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    And yet this is how google and seo has worked forever. Without contention. Shifting sands is something we are all factoring in when creating online businesses i hope.

    I find myself wondering what the uk domain namespace could look like without self interest.

    I have absolutely zero faith in nominet and never have had.
     
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    People also need to look at the fact from a little further back. Let's give Nominet the benefit of the doubt on this and say it wasn't a grand money making plan.

    It was the deliberate shutting down of things like the PAB that led to 6 months of negative and dangerous uncertainty. If the PAB has still be alive and Nominet strill been member focused, those members would have shut this down at week one (again) and nobody would have ever heard of it.

    Because they are moving away from membership input, tens of thousands of man hours needed to be in-putted by people on this board and elsewhere to put things right.

    That is one of the biggest issues here.
     
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    Hardly, one of the board is a ex-banker. We need board members that eat, sleep and breath domain names people.
     
  12. foz

    foz Well-Known Member Exclusive Member

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    Definitely. +++
     
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    Well the BBC have certainly stuck by their emphasis on the outcome this morning, I'm pretty sure if it was an incorrect summarisation it would have been pulled or at least amended by now.

    Be interesting to see how the story is reported in todays press, I'm Sure everyone that finds something will give us a heads-up
     
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    Nominet will win long term, if your the .co.uk holder and your given the option of having .uk you will take it, you will not let the .co.uk expire incase someone else grabs it and puts a site on, so nominet will win as you then have and pay for both.
     
  15. websaway United Kingdom

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    I remember telling a coleague in the early nineties that england would never join the euro, I had no way of knowing how things would pan out but I was sure that we would not lose sterling for the euro.

    I say now that .uk will never be introduced in direct competition to co.uk
    which is being proposed.
     
  16. websaway United Kingdom

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    I think before Nominet set out on their investigation a movement should be started.

    " No Direct Competitor To co.uk In the UK Domain Space "

    or the like, Keep it simple so everyone can grasp it, no personal interests involved just the fact that the uk business domain space has already been sold through 9,000,000 registrations of co.uk.
     
  17. foz

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    It's not "Nominet" driving this, just a few board members.
     
  18. websaway United Kingdom

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    Was it the ones who had a conflict of interest ?
     
  19. foz

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    We the registrants have been put through all of this from the actions of the board and it's still not over. The consensus seems to be opposed to opening up the second level, however the board is still ploughing on with further "work arounds". The buck stops at the board, not the entity Nominet.
     
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  20. websaway United Kingdom

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    that's why I think this is the way forward

    I think before Nominet set out on their investigation a movement should be started.

    " No Direct Competitor To co.uk In the UK Domain Space "

    or the like, Keep it simple so everyone can grasp it, no personal interests involved just the fact that the uk business domain space has already been sold through 9,000,000 registrations of co.uk.

    Looking for another income stream don't look here.
     
  21. foz

    foz Well-Known Member Exclusive Member

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    Piers White wants it (Registrar conference, stated so). No amount of campaigning is going to change his mind. If the board is at odds with its members they (some or all) need to go.