Domainlore "previously sold for"

[seemly]

I don't tend to visit Domainlore much these days, but this was the first time I noticed "Previously sold for" data.

Checking this domain out on domainsaleshistory.uk shows that it was previously sold on Domainlore, so it's good to see that Deny's is using the data he has at his disposal to enhance the listings.

 

[Jiblob]

Not sure whether that's a good or bad thing to point that out to the buyer...

 

[KarlM]

Agreed.

Not sure whether that's a good or bad thing to point that out to the buyer...

 

[seemly]

Not sure whether that's a good or bad thing to point that out to the buyer...

Over the years, I've received plenty of feedback on both sides of that fence regarding domainsaleshistory.uk

My opinion on data and 'users': Use it or don't. Nobody is forcing you.

Fundamentally, the value of a domain name will always be defined by what both a buyer and a seller deem acceptable to them.

As a buyer or seller, historic sales data can be used to help justify in your mind what said domain's value is, based on varying criteria, and you can attempt to use that educated knowledge to negotiate the end price.

Domains like this one though - the value is in the link profile and history rather than how premium the domain name is aesthetically, which adds another level of complexity.

 

[Jiblob]

I think for this one they could list the UK trademarks associated with it as well.

 

[jasman]

I think for this one they could list the UK trademarks associated with it as well.

But that is hardly going to help the seller sell it, and neither is it in the platform's interest to be admitting that they are aware of a potential trademark conflict but still facilitated the domain's sale.

At the end of the day it's a case of caveat emptor. The value conferred by an SEO domain is due to its history and its remnant link profile. If you're willing to pay over the odds for an otherwise worthless domain, in the hope that you can benefit from its link profile, then you should at least put in a little time to know what you are buying and who previously owned it. At the very least you will need to know this to ensure that any content you put on it cannot be construed as passing off as the previous registrant.

 

[webber]

they could list the UK trademarks associated with it as well

There is precedent

Deny's is using the data he has at his disposal to enhance the listings

Maybe it's also because while an auction is ongoing, the DL history page is not available (redirect to the auction page). Eg: https://domainlore.uk/domain/superfast-openreach.co.uk

 

[seemly]

Maybe it's also because while an auction is ongoing, the DL history page is not available (redirect to the auction page). Eg: https://domainlore.uk/domain/superfast-openreach.co.uk

That's not technically true, as you can access the auction by ID, as you did in your previous paragraph.

Here is the auction page for the last time superfast-openreach.co.uk was sold.

 

[DJ]

That's not technically true, as you can access the auction by ID, as you did in your previous paragraph.

Here is the auction page for the last time superfast-openreach.co.uk was sold.

Interesting, but how would one find out the auction id?

 

[seemly]

Interesting, but how would one find out the auction id?

You'd have to do it manually.

 

[webber]

how would one find out the auction id?

When there is no auction running, this page will show a history of the domain with links to past auctions using the auction_id url:

https://domainlore.uk/domain/superfast-openreach.co.uk

Eg: https://domainlore.uk/domain/elevate.uk

 

[DJ]

@webber Thanks, I know that old auctions are visible, I was interested in how you would find the auction ID for old auctions when the name has been relisted as @seemly described. Presume the old auction ID's aren't published and you would need to have a record of it?

 

[webber]

That's what I said...

because while an auction is ongoing, the DL history page is not available

I guess @seemly could tweak his code to crawl the DL history page after each auction and store the link with the auction_id for each sale.
Currently the "View Sales Page" links for all these sales are actually the same link and point only to the latest auction on DL.
Might be a fair bit of work though, so you might need to buy him a few coffees for that...

Google doesn't seem to crawl and cache these DL history pages, despite being allowed by robots.txt
Archive.org does cache some of these, but a lot less frequently as you can see here