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Minds+Machines offloads registrar business to Uniregistrar and Nominet

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  1. PaulK

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    Without wishing to sound negative, doesn't this just dilute Nominet's interest further in operating the .uk extensions if presumably they are now going to start promoting these two bit extensions? Can't Nominet just stick to the .uk and stop devaluing its own product with all these new ventures?!?!
     
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    Without wishing to sound negative, isn't this a whole new revenue stream for Nominet that makes their recent 50% price rise look even more greedy?
     
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    How many of the 28 extensions are too small to be commercially viable I wonder?
     
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    Subject line of thread is partially misleading and seems to have been typed in haste so the OP could be first to make his one link post without any further analysis by him.

    Minds and Machines LLC (an ICANN accredited registrar) is transitioning its DUMs to UniRegistrar Corp of the Cayman Islands d/b/a UniRegistry under licence from UniRegistry Corp of the Cayman Islands (another ICANN registrar). By today's count the number of DUM's that could be transitioning is just under 50,000.

    MMX Registry is outsourcing its BERO including a larger number of gTLDs including .work and .london to Nominet. Nominet already offer BERO services to .bbc and some other gTLDs. In addition Nominet are also a EBERO provider (one of about three worldwide I believe).

    Nominet are not operating an ICANN registrar (NRS has been mothballed and is still mothballed having been formed to support the registration of .wales and .cymru should it have been necessary to do so).

    The gTLDs that Nominet are going to be acting as a BERO for belong to MMX and it will still fall to MMX and their registrar partners to promote them, not Nominet. Obviously Nominet are to be compensated by MMX for their BERO services just as they are for their existing BERO services by other companies.

    It's not possible to reliably establish which gTLDs are profitable as part of a group of gTLDs because the number of registered premiums and their financial worth are not easily available. DUM's isn't a clear indicator because of premiums. Only the parent company, and possibly some of its registrar partners, would have that information.
     
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    It was exactly that, a simple copy and paste - readers of the article can take from it what they like.
     
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    So were nominet told they could do this deal if they raised their prices and did away with multi year pricing?

    Second phase of Nominets not so public plan to come soon no doubt.
     
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    I felt your headline was misleading because you have posted in the Nominet section of this forum. Your subject line states "Minds+Machines offloads registrar business to Uniregistrar and Nominet" but what is relevant with respect to Nominet is Nominet becoming BERO for MMX's gTLDs. MMX haven't offloaded any registrar business to Nominet. Unfortunately some members here won't read beyond what you post. Ian's comment of "presumably they [Nominet] are now going to start promoting these two bit extensions?" is a misunderstanding of the relationship. MMX and its registrar partners do promotion of the extensions. Nominet is simply the BERO.

    Nominet's review of .uk pricing began last year, I believe, even before I joined the Board. MMX's decisions regarding their operations are completely independent from those of Nominet. This business partnership was formed much more recently. In my personal opinion it seems likely that MMX would have considered other BERO candidates, the same as it seems likely that Minds and Machines LLC would have considered other registrars besides UniRegistrar d/b/a UniRegistry to transition their DUMs to, but I haven't asked them so I don't know.

    Can anyone find me a traditional registry that still offers discounts on multiple years? There may well be some but I am not aware of any offhand. If so, post in a new thread.
     
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    I'm happy for nominet to price domains as high as they wish and run the business as they wish, but to make so many changes and have so many agendas without being open isn't what I thought nominet was about. In my opinion of course.
     
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    I'm sat here reading this and I just experienced Déjà vu.

    ..."but to make so many changes and have so many agendas without being open isn't what I thought nominet was about...."

    I suspect if 10 people were asked what they thought you were on about specifically, we'd get 10 different answers. :p
     
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    Who care's.

    A good proportion of the content related to Nominet so in my view its relevant - if its not for you move on and read something else.

    Anything regarding Nominet and you pop up spewing the company line, too much time on your hands and aspirations of something bigger in Nominet me thinks!
     
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    It's just another example of a poorly thought out post by another forum member on here which eggs on others who also don't take the time to understand.

    This "spewing the company line" retort is very old now. :) You'll find that I've literally posted the facts above, more than you tried to do with your misleading subject line.

    No, I don't want a job at Nominet.
     
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    I barely understood a word of your entire post :eek:
     
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    Domains Under Management ("DUM"). :)
    Doing Business As ("d/b/a") similar to Trading As (t/a") in the United Kingdom.
    Limited Liability Company ("LLC")
    Back End Registry Operator/Operation ("BERO")
    Emergency Back End Registry Operator/Operation ("EBERO")
    Nominet Registrar Services ("NRS") currently being mothballed.
     
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    haha
     
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