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domain name pawnbrokers uk?

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  1. platey United Kingdom

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    why don't traditional uk auction houses se'll domain names?

    and or uk pawn brokers lend or liquidate domain names?
     
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  3. Ben Thomas

    Ben Thomas Well-Known Member

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    Well, because the value is determined by the buyer. That's like saying, why don't pawnbrokers and auction houses sell/buy/leverage stock portfolios. It's too risky and as an intangible asset, unlike tangible assets, it run the risk that one day, it will disappear and that nobody can determine its value with certainty. Unlike, for example, an antique clock or such.
     
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    We lend money against domain names & websites (oxygen dot uk) but the quality has to be there. .co.uk/.uk are harder to borrow against due to the market being illiquid.

    Other places that lend money are domain capital
     
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    Please explain your reasons for this statement
     
  6. platey United Kingdom

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    i tried your company recently but apparently my portfolio has no value

    domains I have owned that went on to be bought by companies after I let them expire etc

    sports .legal
    crowd. finance
    sports. finance
    pawn. express

    etc these domains I have owned before the current owners

    domains I currentmy own that are in auction

    Abbey. services
    vlog. finance
    vlog. marketing
    transport. watch
    pawn vehicles .com
    lilac goat .com - although renewed it

    current domains I own

    account. watch
    a1. chat
    Anne. gold
    campervan. parts
    campervan. show
    celeb. singles
    debt. city
    divorce. claims
    defunct. news
    Fay. gold
    gtld. broker
    grocery takeaway. com
    grocery drivethru. com
    Heidi. gold
    Jan. gold
    Jill. gold
    Jenny. gold
    Julie. gold
    Mick. gold
    nomad. loans
    nomad. credit
    narrowboat. xyz
    narrowboats. xyz
    narrowboat. life
    n ft reseller. xyz
    plasterer. xyz
    plasterers. xyz
    privacybarrister. com
    privacysolicitor. com
    privacysolicitors. com
    room. credit
    room. loans
    sexismsolicitor. com
    sexismsolicitors. com
    sally. gold
    Tracey. gold (estibot value $5900)
    unemployment. loans
    unrestricted. loans
    van. watch
    vloglawyer. com
    yard. watch

    and that's just a sample of my portfolio these are some of the domains that oxygen. uk had the opportunity to either buy or lend against but decided their was no value in these domains
     
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    Warning sign:

    Ignore estibot, or any other automated valuation tool.

    Be honestly objective:

    Some of them sound OK when you read them out loud, but people that aren't domainers won't trust it.
    If money was no object, you didn't own them already, and you saw any of these for sale for more than registration fee, which ones would you honestly buy?

    Realistically, from your list, you need to ignore any domains that aren't .com. They're just not desirable or marketable (for the most part).
    That leaves us with:
    • LilacGoat.com
    • GroceryTakeaway.com
    • GroceryDriveThru.com
    • PrivacyBarrister.com
    • PrivacySolicitor.com
    • PrivacySolicitors.com
    • SexismSolicitor.com
    • SexismSolicitors.com
    • VlogLawyer.com
    The legal related domains are far too niche. Excluding VlogLawyer. I have no idea what that would consist of.
    The grocery domains are too long, when a brandable is probably more desirable.

    Which leaves us with LilacGoat, which can be nothing other than a brandable that you might get lucky with one day.

    I personally don't rate any of them.
     
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  8. Robert Smith United Kingdom

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    Unfortunately we don't lend against these extensions. They are too volatile (low cost initial renewals that rise dramatically) and do not have a proven track record.

    As @seemly mentions above the .com quality is not high enough.
     
  9. platey United Kingdom

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    no probs its good to get another perspective cheers for your insight
     
  10. platey United Kingdom

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    that's ok thanks for the advice
     
  11. Robert Smith United Kingdom

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    It is very difficult to sell a .co.uk/.uk domain quickly for a reasonable price. Even super prime domains don't move quickly so it is not a very liquid market. If you look at flip.uk or domainlore not many domains sell for above £xxx.
     
  12. platey United Kingdom

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    I used to buy two keyword .co.uk and .uk domains a few years ago when you could buy a .co.uk for 2 years for £5 e.g.
    I used to own
    givefood. co.uk and givefood. uk and had a concept for them and owned them for about 3 years or so and let them expire as I started to buy new gtlds etc but couldn't be happier that the current owner of the give food. uk uses it as a redirect in to the org. uk which is a food bank site etc but that is why I buy my domains e.g. I have a concept tech idea and buy the domain of the idea and the domain purchase gives the date I had the idea etc which is why I bought
    homeless. events
    And
    poverty. watch
    As I have concepts for both domains as I do with my
    freecarparks. com
    etc as I am an ideas guy
     
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  13. platey United Kingdom

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    can you guess which 4 domains gets the most parking visits from my domains in the above list

    eg from my entire domain name portfolio (the above list in my post in this thread is just a sample of the domains in my portfolio 1st)
    but the domains that get the most parking visits of all my domains are in the above list but 4 of the domains are in that list

    domains that get the most parking visits are?

    1 ?
    2 ?
    3 (room. tips) (not in above list but it gets 3rd most parking visits eg 472 parking visits this year in my domain name portfolio
    4?
    5?
     
  14. seemly

    seemly Well-Known Member

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    I've read, re-read, then tried reading it again, but that second paragraph confuses the hell out of me. But i'll bite (partially).

    Where is the traffic coming from?
    • It's very unlikely to be type-in traffic.
    • If it's through domain listing platforms, it could very well be bots.
    • If it's through historic link profile, then this will define the value of any of the listed domains.
    Other than the above list items i'm not that interested in guessing, as unless the link profile is reasonable/good, the domain value is minimal at best.
     
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