how can it happen? stolen domain

[francosi]

hi, thanks to everyone who certainly know more than i do, i would like your advice on something that happened to me
i went on the net and saw that a domain that i like was available, so i done all the usual registration and i believe had to conferm my email in order to get to the shopping basket, anyway something happened, this was like the 22nd or 23 December 2010, when i tried to get in to pay for it it kept coming up with invalid, so over the xmas period i left it thinking i will get in touch after the festive season, i did , after trying to log in a million times i decided to do another search (one i did not really want) this time i managed to get into the cp thenew domain was there , but the previous one was not there , so i done a whois, and it came back that it had been sold on the 24th december 2010, it was sold by the same company that i had registered with, and only 1 or 2 days after i could not access them, i tried to get in touch with them but only auomated messages, the thing is this that when i put in the second domain name in and got to the cp all the other info was faked, but when it shows up as to the name and address its all correct, same as i had put in the first time round...........!!! ??? help please

 

[Alien]

Welcome to Acorn - may I ask what the domain name was or at least the extension please?

 

[doodlebug]

Happy to help but when you can't even be bothered to say hello in the introductions section then why should I bother writing replies to you :?:

 

[Bailey]

Now come on guys - this is serious.

Seems to me that there is a basket case, sorry basket thief on the loose. Do you know I was in the Co-op the other day when I picked up one of those 'on expiration date' bargains.

sliced ham down from £3 to 75p - well that went straight in my basket and I headed for the check-out. Via the drinks and booze aisle obviously. well blow me down, at the checkout - there was no sign of the ham - I'd only put my basket down for a millionth of a second or something like that.

I reckon its the same guy that done francosi over

 

[retired_member32]

your all so horrible....

it happened to me....i saw a domain that was free to reg and i thought shall i buy or not....then after thinking about it for the last 18 months decided i will register the domain after all,unfortunately when i went into my control panel it stated the domain had been registered with another person...Hey how come this happened it's sooo wrong man......couldn't believe my eyes....anyway threatened the current owner with bricks and things and like went to his pad in like 500 miles away in Brazil had to jump on a plane and everthing and he was something like ancient 30 something and he was seven foot tall so just walked away gutted man....end of story

I reckon its the same guy that done francosi over

 

[doodlebug]

Well I was on a train once working as a trolly dolly, I went from 1 end of the train to the other and when I got there I realised that someone had nicked a carton of Apple Ribena :evil:

I reckon its the same guy that done francosi over

 

[Systreg]

I don't know why everyone is taking the piss out of this new member asking for help, it does happen that registrars register domains that you have entered in to their sites, Network Solutions were notorious for it, not sure if they still practice this or not now? Found this item from 2008:

As of some time last month, it appears the domain registrar Network Solutions is automatically registering all available ‘.com’ domain names searched for through their website but not purchased. They claim it is to protect from ‘domain frontrunning’ but actually looks like a blatant case of domain frontrunning by themselves.

If you are unfamiliar with the processes involved in registering a domain name, here is a simplified version of what happens:

1. Check to see if your preferred domain name is available through a ‘whois’ search

2. If it’s available it can be registered through a registrar (such as 123-reg, or network solutions – prices vary between different providers)

3. If you decide to register your chosen domain name, you simply need to pay for it through the registrar and the domain name is yours, usually for 1 year.

Now what Network Solutions are doing is grabbing the search at the first stage, and automatically holding it for a default 5 day grace period, in which time the domain will show as unavailable through any registrar apart from Network Solutions.

They claim this is to stop the practice of ‘domain frontrunning’ – where some unethical types get hold of potential domain names people have searched for and then registering them, forcing the person who made the search to buy the domain from them at a usually extortionate rate if they really want it. However, Network Solution’s process of temporarily registering these domain names similarly forces users to buy the domain from them at their inflated prices – a very similar situation.

The reason I say they are forced to buy the domain is that once the domain is initially held, it is automatically added to the world DNS list, alerting all domain frontrunners of its existence.

There has been a fair bit of coverage of this on various blogs and forums, and their collective voice is getting louder. In the last 24 hours Network Solutions have announced they will now only hold domains searched from their homepage, and those held will only display an ‘under construction’ message instead of their previous message announcing this domain was available to register to anyone.

However this still hasn’t gone down all too well, as there is no official notification of this set up on the Network Solutions website causing a lot of confusion for your average web user wanting simply wanting to find out if the nifty little domain name they thought of was available.

Personally, I won’t be using Network Solutions for my domain lookups from now on. This way I can be sure they won’t be grabbing any potentially lucrative domain names from me. The problem is if Network Solutions go ahead and carry this through to a permanent move, how long will it be until other registrars follow suit?

As mentioned, there is a growing negative backlash to this whole situation, so hopefully Network Solutions realise the error of their ways and revert to their normal service, sooner rather than later.

 

[accelerator]

What extension of domain was this? If it was a .co.uk, I would say in future you must check via the WHOIS at Nominet.org.uk that the domain has been registered to you.

Rgds

 

[Bailey]

I don't know why everyone is taking the piss out of this new member asking for help, it does happen that registrars register domains that you have entered in to their sites, Network Solutions were notorious for it, not sure if they still practice this or not now? Found this item from 2008:

Now come-on, A little bit of good natured humour, should be tolerated.

Look at the vagueness of the original post. that isn't a language problem - thats someone who's lost the plot to the registration process.

Stolen domain !!! - my arse

 

[jimmc]

You guys should feel ashamed of yourself. If this is someone who doesn't know the drill but the enquiry is genuine, then this person came here for help and he's being ridiculed - disgrace!

 

[retired_member16]

You guys should feel ashamed of yourself. If this is someone who doesn't know the drill but the enquiry is genuine, then this person came here for help and he's being ridiculed - disgrace!

Agreed. This forum is now full of daft old twats who spout a lot of shite and are increasing rude to new members.

Im only going to post in the sales forum from now on coz ive had enough. It's a real shame.

 

[aZooZa]

This is already common knowledge. You need to pick your registrar carefully. 'Systreg' is absolutely correct - and 'invincible' doesn't always know the difference between a noun and an adjective ("your English is atrociousness') but; hey, together we'll help you here.

 

[jimmc]

I don't feel ashamed of what I posted[/U]. Given the vagnous of the OP I wasn't expecting he/she would be back anyway.

If I managed this forum I'd moderate new posters.....

If you want this forum to improve then perhaps consider how much contribution you make to relevant threads because that is what makes this forum relevant.

Its not for you or anyone else to make an instant decision, if you dont feel ashamed then that's fine.

Well maybe we should be glad you're not managing this forum then?

You know I used to post on this forum a lot but there is a certain clique of posters who clearly have a very high and somewhat misplaced opinion of themselves and its usually the 'same old suspects' who tend to make a fool of people, or at least try to. There's just no need, it's not big and it's not clever!!

Invincible your post wasn't the worst, however if someone asks for help, whether or not English is their first language. If you cannot help, you dont have to post at all. I'm with Systreg, lee and aZooZa, the relevance of this forum, which used to be great, is damaged by bullshit like this!

BTW: I assume that by vagnous that you actually mean vagueness?

 

[Bailey]

Hey - apologies if I've caused offence. I'm sure most of us have a reasonable sense of whats outright wicked or just a spur of the moment and possibly misplaced humour.

Thats an interesting comment about age-perception Lee because I certainly fall into your (to old for a BMX) category. On the plus side I feel i've had a good insight into the Co.uk side in my time spent here and hopefully some of my knowledge after 10 odd years in dot coms and tlds I've been able to share.

Interestingly I've spent a fair amount of time trying to convince a few other old hands (uk based) to contribute here but their perception is that is that it's a kids playground. Which is a shame because I know their wrong.

The success of the professional boards - is partly due in that the membership don't take things personally and look at the posting/comments occasionally as a relief from the day-to-day business of domaining. Still each to our own - time for the Horlicks me thinks

 

[Bailey]

I will make a further comment in this thread - because I think it relevant.

If somebody (ie me) makes a comment that is deemed out-of-order, then hopefully the moderators or the Administrator should step in. The fact that a comment or reply is not censored immediately shouldn't be an issue, I think most appreciate just how much time and commitment is involved in running a forum in real-time.

The other slightly disturbing (hopefully wrong) picture that is begining to emerge in my short-time here. Is just how much this board may be seen as a personal hunting ground by some members - There is a good amount of experienced domain-catchers on this board (us old farts used to call them 'script kiddies' - but, boy have they shown us a thing or two)

And I wonder how-much that suits some of the membership to have certain individuals step-in a call things as they see them, where perhaps there was a time when there were more rich pickings to be had. Still I've no doubt the spill-over between threads will continue - I'm guilty of it myself.

 

[doodlebug]

It's all very well saying that some people including me are rude to new members but that's only when it's clearly spam or nonsense.

As for being rude and professional well correct me if I'm wrong but I am only regular member giving appraisals which are good ones aswell
And THE ONLY member to welcome in every single new member in the introduction section.

Without me there would be a lot unwelcomed newbies.

Maybe those who speak about rudeness want to take a leaf out of their own book.

And behind the scenes I get quite a few members PM me for help which I do.

If it's obvious spam or nonsense then I will say something and expect members to do the same should I talk nonsense.

 

[Bailey]

Waste of time trying to convince the hard-core "I knows" doodlebug

I'm begining to guess that anyone that has something to add will be shot down in short-shift.

 

[francosi]

thank you friends, i appriciate those that have put their views across on how we newbies get treated, but no problem, unfortunately its part of some peoples society nowdays, glad that there are people still around who are their to share their time and experience, i have not solved my problem, but it has led me to do more search on the net, some which i am slowly picking up, other stuff too tecnical for me, but i am finding that companies and individuals do sit there just to be crooks that is for sure

i dont know if i ever get my domain back or not, but i will keep going and if ever i come across anyone who asks me or i feel that i can be of helpto them you bet i will

 

[francosi]

Please rewrite in proper sentences, using punctuation such as the fullstop. Actually, regardless, there's nothing we can do. It's just hard luck. Without knowing specific details of the company involved, and putting aside the fact that your English is atrociousness (I'm guessing you're foreign, but so what), nobody can help. If you didn't actually register and pay for the domain name then it was never yours. Someone else registered it, and you'll have a very difficult time proving that their registration was related to your original attempt at a registration. If you feel aggrieved or that you have lost something, consult an appropriate member of the legal profession. Nobody here can do anything.

i have started new course in bbc english

 

[francosi]

Happy to help but when you can't even be bothered to say hello in the introductions section then why should I bother writing replies to you :?:

you are right, i appoligies