How Is This New Domain Shake Up Going To Affect Traders?

[GingerApple]

Hey all,

Just wondering if anyone had any ideas on what effect this new domain system (.love, .bank, .disappointing... etc...) is going have on our prospective money making, as there will be thousands upon thousands of TLDs avaliable, so surely no one will be bothered about buying a .com or .co.uk any more?

 

[ratboy]

In a reverse manner it potentially makes .com and .co.uk more sought after as it has a devaluing effect on the weaker .tlds now there are more of them!

 

[aZooZa]

Serious traders will most likely completely ignore them. I think they'll be about as popular as .museum etc.

 

[tifosi]

Has it been confirmed? I got the impression that the controllers of the root zone aren't keep on opening it up.

Who are going to control each tld? It's not an easy OR cheap proposition. It's not as though Joe Bloggs from round the corner is going to decide, hey I want .bloggs and hey presto a new TLD is formed.

S

 

[GingerApple]

Give me chance to reply guys! I get half way through writing a reply and I get a new E-Mail saying I have a reply, obviously a hot topic ;-)

In response to tifosi's comment, ICANN seem to be expecting these new domains to be authorised. However, I sympathise with your point that it will be a very expensive operation.

Ratboy, I can understand that side of the argument, but do you honestly you belief it will be so? I'm not saying your wrong, in fact I hope you're right, I'm just worried that these new domain names will completely devalue top level domains because they can just market their new extensions, and over time people will get used having to know the correct extension and com/net/org will fade into the background, becoming almost obsolete?

 

[ratboy]

Ask my mum (someone I often ask for the laymans view - and no she isn't a member here ) and she has just got used to .co.uk and .com. They have to make sense to people like my mum to have a chance in the mainstream (marketing, tv etc) to ever have a chance of devaluing already used and well known branding. Have you ever seen a .info on a TV ad?

 

[GingerApple]

Good point ratboy, but .info is considerably newer than .co.uk, and maybe we'll be hearing more of it in the future... oh who am I kidding? You provide such a good argument I can't compete

I'm just worried that the system will change and this whole way of making money will completley disappear.

 

[GreyWing]

Stick with .co.uk's or .com's, there is nothing I can think of or on the horizon that will stop them. The only remote possibility os if nom goto .uk's and drop the .co.uk's but I imagine it would only ever pass if the people who owned the .co.uk's got the first option at the same .uk's

But even that is remote

 

[ratboy]

I'm just worried that the system will change and this whole way of making money will completley disappear.

Erm it has already hasn't it? Pure domain speculation and drop catching that is? There are some other exciting ways of making money with domains, and many are clearly obvious here. I'd follow the recent trend of developing domains, and note that their success if generally tied into their positon in Google. I deal with hundreds of small businesses a week and they all want rankings and positon.. This method kind of overrides the tld... ish. My money is with .co.uk. .com if you have deep pockets.

Good luck with it.

 

[Jeewhizz]

Only .info I've ever seen advertised on TV:

Welcome to BrightHouse

 

[GingerApple]

Yeah but don't trust them they charge 30% interest on your purchases

 

[tifosi]

The "what's in a name" 25years of the DNS anniversary conference was interesting over what the major players think about opening up the root zone... first 4 videos the best.

The intro sounded like Carl Sagan until I realised it was one of the co-ordinators of the meeting.... great voice!

oxford internet institute | webcast | What's in a name? The History and Future of the Domain Name System

 

[tifosi]

Damn, that was a conversation stopper!

 

[accelerator]

Just wondering if anyone had any ideas on what effect this new domain system (.love, .bank, .disappointing... etc...) is going have on our prospective money making, as there will be thousands upon thousands of TLDs avaliable, so surely no one will be bothered about buying a .com or .co.uk any more?

Well, the value of a particular domain is always dictated by its advertising benefits. I don't see any major concerns in the short to medium term future for .co.uk and .com, but you should never have all your eggs in one basket and don't get too carried away purely on domain trading - try developing or selling some before accumulating too many that aren't being put to use. Although I think any major problems are unlikely you can never discount it entirely but I still think that premium domains in .co.uk or .com should make good investments.

Rgds

 

[rob]

It does cost a fair whack to set up .acorn plus proving tech ability to run the thing.

Personally I think it will hurt .com / .uk etc as much as .info .eu .mobi and the likes are, and the real damage will be to domainers wallets who landrush each time.

Are loans.co.uk really going to move to er, Loans.loans ? Or Natwest.loans ?

Lots more cruft and lots of cash for those running them... domaining migh not be a case of regging names but more running names...!

 

[GingerApple]

Yeah, you may be right about the expense of running them, I sure hope so

How would these domains be run? Would it be a case of buying a server then, or not?

I can just imagine Apple having one, free website and .apple domain name when you buy a mac!

 

[rob]

Yeah, you may be right about the expense of running them, I sure hope so

How would these domains be run? Would it be a case of buying a server then, or not?

I can just imagine Apple having one, free website and .apple domain name when you buy a mac!

$250k and proof you can do it, its not the free-for-all that is currently suggested.

.mac would be a possibility though, however with Apple running it you *must* use apple services to qualify for a domain? can't see the 'free' .uk being threatened by balkanised domain extensions.

 

[tifosi]

I think the 'proof' here is far more relevent than the cost.

In the long term there will be more 'generic' tlds... There's a thread here somewhere about opening 'sub-country' tlds, and a memorable couple of days on non-steer where Tommy called everyone ludite anti-scottish morons, or words to that effect.

IMO... no more new country codes, unless they totally turn-around and create a whole new batch of 3letter ones... I mean dozens\hundreds, not just a few. A few extra continental amalgamations possibly.

Generic ones will be judged harshly on their merits, and most it not all will be thrown out.

The root zone controllers at ICANN etc will NOT just open out their domain - for want of a better word, to a free for all. It's a private organisation after all.

S

 

[rob]

...plus they need to ensure there is only a landrush every 6 months or so otherwise idiot domainers wont be able to afford to LANDGRAB every CVCVCVCVC LLLLLL L-C-V-L-C-V combo

 

[tifosi]

...plus they need to ensure there is only a landrush every 6 months or so otherwise idiot domainers wont be able to afford to LANDGRAB every CVCVCVCVC LLLLLL L-C-V-L-C-V combo

can we adopt that as the collective noun?

'An idiot of domainers'

Sounds good!!

S