Post Penguin SEO Tactic.

[Ashton]

I'll write this up in detail at some point, but I have had some success with this formula:

1) Create a wordpress site on a decent exact match domain.
2) Create 3 blogger blogs. (blogspot.co.uk)
3) Blog daily or twice daily on all the blogs. It's up to you whether you spin the content from the main blog or write unique articles for all 3 sites.
4) Link build to them - pay for links, guest blog. Make sure you're getting links from pages with high PR and not too many links.
5) Once ranks and traffic pick up and remain up (ie: the blogs are stabilised within google) 301 the blogger sites to the main site.

The 301s should flow the link juice to the main site and buffer it up the ranks. I have had a bit of success like this at the moment and I'm going to continue to do so hopefully.

It's by no means perfect and its just a very basic skeleton, but it might help some.

 

[Blossom]

Interesting. Why don't you just do all that for your main site (minus the spinning)?

 

[Ashton]

Interesting. Why don't you just do all that for your main site (minus the spinning)?

I dont do the spinning but I can understand why some might want to cut corners (at a potential cost)

It just seems to work well for me. It means that if I get one of the blogger sites killed then its not happening to my main site and I can just discard it.

From what I have seen recently it seems that the 301s dont really pass the bad links so you can make mistakes linking to the blogger sites and not worry about it too much.

 

[newguy]

Semi related point. Say you 301 from one site to another, then at some point someone else owns the 301'd domain. How does that impact the links that point towards their site (specifically the ones whose value was previously being 301's to another site)?

 

[Ashton]

I guess they go back to wherever the owner has the domain - I've noticed some sites in the payday sector shifting their 301 weight around between different domains and none of it stays with the previous 301ed domain.

 

[Blossom]

It just seems to work well for me. It means that if I get one of the blogger sites killed then its not happening to my main site and I can just discard it.

But doing all that won't hurt your sites, just improve them. The 301s just mean you pass less juice.

 

[Ashton]

Just seems to work well for me - maybe its something to do with the blogspot.co.uk domain authority ?

 

[Blossom]

Just seems to work well for me - maybe its something to do with the blogspot.co.uk domain authority ?

It's a bit of a risk because your blogspot accounts could be closed or disappear for whatever reason. It's an interesting test though because it gives you more control (in a way).

 

[xstu74]

penguin 1.1

Looks like penguin 1.1 under way as of 16/05 lots of movment in serps (refresh)

 

[Ashton]

Lmfao some fucked up results for payday loans...

froginawell.net was ranked no. 4....

Some black hat has been messing around ^^

 

[xstu74]

Lmfao some fucked up results for payday loans...

froginawell.net was ranked no. 4....

Some black hat has been messing around ^^

There defo on the right trax with this refresh lol

 

[Ashton]

There defo on the right trax with this refresh lol

There was a robot only 301 redirect from it to a payday site on it.

PaydayUK are back in the serps

 

[julian]

that's a terrible tactic - you'll just gunna get smacked down again by G later..

I'll write this up in detail at some point, but I have had some success with this formula:

1) Create a wordpress site on a decent exact match domain.
2) Create 3 blogger blogs. (blogspot.co.uk)
3) Blog daily or twice daily on all the blogs. It's up to you whether you spin the content from the main blog or write unique articles for all 3 sites.
4) Link build to them - pay for links, guest blog. Make sure you're getting links from pages with high PR and not too many links.
5) Once ranks and traffic pick up and remain up (ie: the blogs are stabilised within google) 301 the blogger sites to the main site.

The 301s should flow the link juice to the main site and buffer it up the ranks. I have had a bit of success like this at the moment and I'm going to continue to do so hopefully.

It's by no means perfect and its just a very basic skeleton, but it might help some.

 

[vizzo]

Anything described as a "tactic" has inherent dangers. It might work for a time but then you might get found out.
What you are describing is not "natural" linking and so is in danger of falling foul of Google at some stage.
So - Google sees the blogs on your (Google) blogspot account has numerous paid links in and they all link out to one site (which if it has adsense on it or analytics etc they will also know is yours) - lights go on "link building network" - site gets penalised.

 

[Blossom]

So - Google sees the blogs on your (Google) blogspot account has numerous paid links in and they all link out to one site (which if it has adsense on it or analytics etc they will also know is yours) - lights go on "link building network" - site gets penalised.

And then remove the blogspot link and it goes back to normal.

Other than JC Penney, which they reacted to based on other people telling them about it and used deliberately as a warning, Google has a track record of only penalising sites that sell paid links, not those who buy them. Paid links are difficult to track and pretty much impossible if they are subtle, relevant links within posts. How would you differentiate them from a guest post?

 

[SCJohnson]

My SEO strategy has always been make a site that people want to talk about and want to link to naturally. It's easier to control internal structure than external, so that's what I concentrate on.

That way you don't have to worry so much about what Google is up to now and in the future.

 

[Ashton]

that's a terrible tactic - you'll just gunna get smacked down again by G later..

A blogspot site might get smacked down but then I will remove the 301, they also have a lot of high quality links and varying links - Not just spammy crap links that will make it sure to be hit.

I just use them as a security precaution should one of them get hit. I can just remove the affected site and I've cut off the damage.

+1

Not worth the risk or effort in the long term.
But might provide a return in the early stages, of which you should invest into a more stable, definitive and permanent strategy for the future.

I have already earned enough from it to re-invest into white hat SEO, but I don't see this getting hit any time soon. It seems stable for me and its working for others too and has been for months (I found this by research into others backlink profiles)

Anything described as a "tactic" has inherent dangers. It might work for a time but then you might get found out.
What you are describing is not "natural" linking and so is in danger of falling foul of Google at some stage.
So - Google sees the blogs on your (Google) blogspot account has numerous paid links in and they all link out to one site (which if it has adsense on it or analytics etc they will also know is yours) - lights go on "link building network" - site gets penalised.

Depends, the majority of links are natural links from guest blogging (paid or for content) there are also directories and some other bits. It might not be natural how I'm building it, but at least for now google are judging it as natural. Google don't see paid links without knowing they are paid links, the majority of the sites the links come from are successful blogs with low OBL and no advertising pages.

I also donate to various bits of software I have found on sourceforge and they provide a backlink for this.

My SEO strategy has always been make a site that people want to talk about and want to link to naturally. It's easier to control internal structure than external, so that's what I concentrate on.

That way you don't have to worry so much about what Google is up to now and in the future.

Depends if you have something to talk about or not, I'm sure I could drum up some smart link bait, however some sectors are so boring no one besides a very small niche will talk about them.