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tvs.co.uk tops the list @ £51,000 (well done Scott again)

and here are some others :

RemortgageDeals.co.uk £5,500 = $8,195
PCGames.co.uk £5,100 = $7,599
GetGlasses.co.uk £5,000 = $7,450
ESL.co.uk £2,500 = $3,725
conferencecalling.co.uk $2,800
learntotrade.co.uk $2,682
design247.co.uk $2,384
bestdatingsites.co.uk $2,220
friendfinder.org.uk $1,192
barcodelabels.co.uk $1,118
 
Yes - some very nice sales there. UK market is very strong.

also noticed nowinnofee.net at £5875 which is another nice sale
 
This whole thing of valuing domains seems very complex. On this site people seem to put a high emphasis on local exact searches. However, most of those sites get less than 8,500 local exacts. I guess some of these may have been developed sites?
 
I personally would have put friendfinder#org#uk in the bargain basement, nice sale for the seller :cool:
 
This whole thing of valuing domains seems very complex. On this site people seem to put a high emphasis on local exact searches. However, most of those sites get less than 8,500 local exacts. I guess some of these may have been developed sites?

They look about right. People here just sell at 1/10 to 1/50th end-user prices :)
 
However, most of those sites get less than 8,500 local exacts.

Just goes to show that a hell of a lot of buyers don't know/care what the google keyword tool figures are.

Grant
 
Just goes to show that a hell of a lot of buyers don't know/care what the google keyword tool figures are.

Actually, it's more that people here sell "too cheap", as I mentioned above. Of course, I'm happy to exploit that discrepancy, as I'm sure a lot of other buyers are too...
 
Actually, it's more that people here sell "too cheap", as I mentioned above. Of course, I'm happy to exploit that discrepancy, as I'm sure a lot of other buyers are too...

I totally agree stuff is sold too cheap on here (not complaining though!). Regarding valuing domains and the GKT though, I sell a lot of domains at 3 or 4 figures that have very low or zero local searches. In general if someone wants a domain they'll buy it regardless of the search figures.

I'd guess 95% of my buyers don't even know what the GKT is!

Grant
 
Interesting comments - thanks guys. Ed - I do see a lot of domains on here that don't get sold - so presumably those ones are not underpriced? Also many in the domain appraisals get appraised very low. Just trying to get my head round this as something of a newb
 
Interesting comments - thanks guys. Ed - I do see a lot of domains on here that don't get sold - so presumably those ones are not underpriced? Also many in the domain appraisals get appraised very low. Just trying to get my head round this as something of a newb

The issue as I see it is that so many names are on offer here (thousands and thousands a day) that only the very best bargains are worth going after.

Why would you go for a so-so name when there will be much better value names on offer tomorrow? And there's a lot of stuff in the "for sale" threads that's not even so-so quality!

Acorn is a completely different ecosystem from the end-user market, and there's no conceivable way to draw meaningful parallels between them.

On here, people are generally going for volume: lots of quick sales, often at very low markups of regfee. Brings liquidity, pays for renewals, but unlikely to present a big payoff unless you can do it thousands of times relatively quickly. It's also not very sustainable (in that you're burning up inventory like crazy) but it has the advantage that if you've picked the right names, your costs are paid for almost immediately. Finally, it's untargetted - you're reaching an audience looking for "bargains" but not for names in any particular niche.

In the end-user market, you hang onto domains for years (potentially decades) but the payoff is 10x, 20x, 50x, 100x or more what you'd expect to get by dumping it on here. You're basically trading time and liquidity for a much larger payoff down the road. You're also reaching a highly targeted market - buyers are typing in their desired domain because of their interest in that niche, and enquiring from there.

So a domain might only be "worth" 50 pounds in the knock-down, rough-and-tumble Acorn domainer-to-domainer market yet still go on to fetch 1,500 pounds from an end-user a month from now. There's no contradiction, because the two markets have nothing at all in common. And if that domain's listed for 100 pounds on here, it won't sell!
 
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The issue as I see it is that so many names are on offer here (thousands and thousands a day) that only the very best bargains are worth going after.

Why would you go for a so-so name when there will be much better value names on offer tomorrow? And there's a lot of stuff in the "for sale" threads that's not even so-so quality!

Acorn is a completely different ecosystem from the end-user market, and there's no conceivable way to draw meaningful parallels between them.

On here, people are generally going for volume: lots of quick sales, often at very low markups of regfee. Brings liquidity, pays for renewals, but unlikely to present a big payoff unless you can do it thousands of times relatively quickly. It's also not very sustainable (in that you're burning up inventory like crazy) but it has the advantage that if you've picked the right names, your costs are paid for almost immediately. Finally, it's untargetted - you're reaching an audience looking for "bargains" but not for names in any particular niche.

In the end-user market, you hang onto domains for years (potentially decades) but the payoff is 10x, 20x, 50x, 100x or more what you'd expect to get by dumping it on here. You're basically trading time and liquidity for a much larger payoff down the road. You're also reaching a highly targeted market - buyers are typing in their desired domain because of their interest in that niche, and enquiring from there.

So a domain might only be "worth" 50 pounds in the knock-down, rough-and-tumble Acorn domainer-to-domainer market yet still go on to fetch 1,500 pounds from an end-user a month from now. There's no contradiction, because the two markets have nothing at all in common. And if that domain's listed for 100 pounds on here, it won't sell!


good post, pretty much hit the nail on the head.
 
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Very very true! A good indication of this is a domain name I was trying to sell last year for about £20, then the next day someone contacted me having seen the holding page on the domain. I got around £300 for it.

Acorn user < £20

End user > £300

I think it's getting harder and harder to get sales through Sedo at the lower end as more people are discounting more and more .... and there's possibly less money sloshing around.

It's simple economics of supply and demand!
 
Very helpful information here.

I'm a long time member of webmasterworld, and from time to time people post authoritative articles that get referred to even years later. Eds posts have that kind of feel.
 
But remember we are all at a casino, those who quick sales on bulk via acorn don't need to worry about things like the Gvernment involvement in Nominet, how the drs system works, how google will value the .co.uk long term. There are plenty of pitfalls to holding on to them until an end user comes.

Everything we hold long term could be worthless in less than a year through no fault of any individual.

You place your money and take your chances.
 
I'm afraid to say that the notion of 'end user price' is just an excuse for ripping people off.

That's a bold statement, why not give us an example, it's not ripping people off, it's business..
 
Cost of replacement feels important to me.

If a domain can be replaced by one of similar quality for say £100, how can a much higher price can be justified.

Domain owners are able to take advantage of the monopoly position they hold over each domain name in a way that is almost unique.

The fair price for a product is not what the highest bidder is willing to pay. It's a dollar more than whatever the second highest bidder is willing to pay.
 
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Cost of replacement feels important to me.

If a domain can be replaced by one of similar quality for say £100, how can a much higher price can be justified.

Domain owners are able to take advantage of the monopoly position they hold over each domain name in a way that is almost unique.

The fair price for a product is not what the highest bidder is willing to pay. It's a dollar more than whatever the second highest bidder is willing to pay.

Least your having a beer or two whilst watching the football, that's the spirit.
 
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