SEO Specialist for Link Penalty Help

[khalid]

Hello,

I work for a reasonably large home improvement firm responsible for their digital and offline marketing.

Unfortunately our website and domains have been attacked several times, and now we've received a link spam penalty.

I employ the services of a link deletion company who have cleaned up the majority of the site's link profile, however having submitted 3 reconsideration requests I am no further forward.

I have pretty much added 80% of the incoming links (even good ones) to the disavow tool and also provided the big G with spreadsheets showing who we've contacted and the action taken (i.e. removal of link).

I am looking for someone who has experience in this area to assist in getting the site back in G's good books.

This is a serious issue so I'm happy to offer a good rate, however I won't be taken for a ride by anyone.

If you think you can help please get in touch via PM.

 

[Murray]

Hey Khalid, I would be willing to take a look at it just as a favour + I find it interesting and it's good research. PM me if you like.

If you want an expert I would recommend Marie Haynes of http://www.hiswebmarketing.com/

I know her very well, she has chosen to specifically dedicate herself to traffic drop recovery, has written books about it as well as writing for moz etc.

 

[khalid]

Hey Khalid, I would be willing to take a look at it just as a favour + I find it interesting and it's good research. PM me if you like.

If you want an expert I would recommend Marie Haynes of http://www.hiswebmarketing.com/

I know her very well, she has chosen to specifically dedicate herself to traffic drop recovery, has written books about it as well as writing for moz etc.

Thanks Murray I've e-mailed her.

 

[DarkSky]

Out of interest, who advised you to use the disavow tool/reconsideration requests?

 

[khalid]

Nobody

 

[DarkSky]

An ex-Google employee recently disclosed (seo conference brighton) that they do not do anything with disavow data, with suggestions it may actually work against you.

Just saying I'd be careful with usage.

 

[retired_member34]

These guys claim some success with the disavow tool. Branded 3

 

[dashu1]

LoL I've helped a member here get his penalty lifted via the disavow link tool, it isn't easy and if you don't give them exactly what they want to see then it will have zero effect.

LoL - Good luck - LoL.

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LoL!

Sorry for laughing, but you really do have to laugh!!

Google, you gotta love 'em!!!

PS - the reason I'm laughing and saying you've got to love Google is because I had 2 sites that I'd managed to get to the point of earning around £3k per month, and at the last Google update they smacked them both into oblivion.

The really annoying thing is that I had kept them totally white, and now all of the sites ranking for the main search terms are spamming it to death.

They're breaking every rule in the book, using every dodgy tactic you can think of, and yet after Google's supposed "web spam" update they're benefiting and legitimate sites have lost all of their rankings.

So how can you keep on doing things the "right" way if you want to earn a living?

 

[Oceanic]

An ex-Google employee recently disclosed (seo conference brighton) that they do not do anything with disavow data, with suggestions it may actually work against you.

Just saying I'd be careful with usage.

I was at the conference and that was not exactly what he said or implied.

Disavow is fine to use!

 

[DarkSky]

I was at the conference and that was not exactly what he said or implied.

Disavow is fine to use!

Feel free to correct me with what he said or implied exactly

 

[DarkSky]

Disavow is fine to use!

According to google ?

 

[Murray]

According to google ?

Google made it, so you would assume they are ok with people using it.

 

[gordi555]

I had a very successful site (6k+ a month) that got link spammed because I was doing so well. I've been trying to bring it back ever since. Tried and kept updating the Google Disavow tool but no luck. Been trying for 5 months and still the traffic decreases week on week. Maybe time to kill it. Negative SEO from competitors killed it.

Any chance you could 301 to a different domain?

 

[Retired_Member38]

Jumping from domain to domain via a 301 every time you have a problem is probably not a realistic solution for a real business like this.

If it works, it would only likely be temporary at best. Look at some of the seo companies who have spent the last 12-18 months switching domains on almost a fortnightly basis every time the original problems catch them again.


I don't think there is any realistic solution involving moving domain - you need to fix the problem, not try and hide from it.

 

[cc976a]

I had a very successful site (6k+ a month) that got link spammed because I was doing so well. I've been trying to bring it back ever since. Tried and kept updating the Google Disavow tool but no luck. Been trying for 5 months and still the traffic decreases week on week. Maybe time to kill it. Negative SEO from competitors killed it.

Any chance you could 301 to a different domain?

Same here. Either the disavow tool doesn't really work, it takes longer than a month to kick in (when I last used) or it wasn't the problem ......and if it isn't I have no idea what is.

I have heard stories recently of 301 redirect to new name is solving ling term algo penalties.

Anyone here tried it with success?

 

[Retired_Member38]

Same here. Either the disavow tool doesn't really work, it takes longer than a month to kick in (when I last used) or it wasn't the problem ......and if it isn't I have no idea what is.

You still need to do a reinclusion request after you use it. Did you do that? If you did, did you get a reply?

 

[cc976a]

You still need to do a reinclusion request after you use it. Did you do that? If you did, did you get a reply?

I haven't. I have only been penalized for one keyword (the main in the industry) but still rank 1st for others. Do I still need to do a reinclusion?

 

[Retired_Member38]

If you have had a WMT account all along and have never had an email from them, then you probably haven't been penalised you have been filtered (perhaps for being too aggressive with the links you were building?)

The end result whether it was a penalty/filter is the same - no rankings or traffic. I don't think a reinclusion will help you, unless you had a warning email in the first place.

 

[cc976a]

No warnings or email from G. Dropped to around page 50 (from 2nd place) 10 months ago.

Past three months has seen a return to Page 1 on three occasions (1st, 2nd and 8th places) for two weeks each time before plummeting again. No changes from me pre or post these temporary ranking changes.

Certainly not aggressive link building - probably complete opposite - but organic and legitimate link building in this niche is tough. I probably now have some of the most authoritative link backs in the niche but it hasn't lifted the penalty / filter.

Appears when you're penalized your card is marked for a long time / life. Hence the question on the 301 redirect...

 

[dashu1]

What we found with the member from Acorn was that there was no warning of a penalty, and reinclusion requests also returned a "no penalty" message, but when the disavow file was accepted the message was "there was a penalty on your site that has now been lifted."

So even if they tell you there's no penalty it doesn't mean that is correct, it could be a manual penalty.