.co uk vs .uk

It's all one big giant commercial stitch-up.
All .uk has done is dilute co.uk in terms of generic value and commercial worth.

Companies in the know, have to register the .uk, not because it benefits them but because they are now held to commercial ransom by Nominet, so they stop another entity entering the same market with the exact same name.

The reason .uk was launched in the way it was is so there is only one winner and that is Nominet. There is absolutely no commercial benefit to existing companies in the uk namespace.

Actually, there are 2 winners.
1. Nominet
2. Squatters and piggy backers, leaching on the success of the orginal co.uk

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oh, and I forgot. The forthcoming proposed price increase for domain registration from the "not for profit" organisation.


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Watch this space as our Chinese friends have a frenzy when the .uk becomes available.

No reverse engineering required. Only "exact same domain registration" required.

If you are an Amazon seller, you will know exactly what I mean by the above. If you are not, watch this space come 2019 and you soon will.



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This is a heads up for anyone importing goods from China.....

Cameron has opened the gates with welcomed arms. The invasion is about to begin like you have never seen the likes of before.

The middle man is going to be squashed and that middle man is any UK company that currently imports from China.

The reason being is VAT. You turn over £80K and you pay 20% VAT.
You are a Chinese company and you now export direct to the UK you have no VAT to pay.

A 20% saving on your base price which blows all UK companies out of the water.

Much the same as the loop hole that put all UK independents out of business with the rise of play.com

Watch this space ......



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scooter said:

The forthcoming proposed price increase for domain registration from the "not for profit" organisation.

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Seems David has lost sight of this in his sad attempts to justify greed.

RobM said:

Seems David has lost sight of this in his sad attempts to justify greed.

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We all know that the "not for profit" aspect is usually, and sometimes perhaps deliberately, misunderstood by members. It doesn't mean that Nominet aren't permitted to make a profit.

I've got a thread on exactly the same dilemma. I put it out to my customers and they overwhelmingly prefer .co.uk - I was surprised but at least now I know.

Today we put up an open Twitter poll (i.e, mostly non customers) and the feedback is coming back pretty much the same.

You can see the poll results here: https://twitter.com/ukchelpdesk/status/674192209130987520

It's only been up 2 hours or so with 22 hours to go.

Personally, after the feedback I have received from many sources, I am almost certainly going with .co.uk and 301 from .uk and the old domains.

Good luck!

invincible said:

We all know that the "not for profit" aspect is usually, and sometimes perhaps deliberately, misunderstood by members. It doesn't mean that Nominet aren't permitted to make a profit.

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No but one has to wonder 'why' they want to make even more of a profit than they currently do - very high. Would it have anything to do with their massive wage rises over the years? Is it justification?

scooter said:

The middle man is going to be squashed and that middle man is any UK company that currently imports from China.

The reason being is VAT. You turn over £80K and you pay 20% VAT.
You are a Chinese company and you now export direct to the UK you have no VAT to pay.

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OT I know, Could you expand on this?

the proliferation of extensions has killed the .uk, by the time this extension is on general release it will more than likely bomb, Panda/Penguin updates and the on/off release of this extension killed domaining, real shame.

..nice try New gtld lover - .Uk is on general release and how dare you say such things a uk domain forum


British public don't are about new domain extensions, British public don't care about new .UK (yet), so what do the brit public care about these days?

I'm like a broken record.. they all thought this back in 2000 with the launch of ,info, .biz, .travel, .pro etc, etc - loads of them about now (tumbleweeds)

..further to that on the face of it you have to admit those domain extensions were around in some of the peak years of domaining and pre current global recession - they were dead then, and dead now, but obviously they still exist and are usable.


QUOTE=Avano Ltd;535673]the proliferation of extensions has killed the .uk, by the time this extension is on general release it will more than likely bomb, Panda/Penguin updates and the on/off release of this extension killed domaining, real shame.[/QUOTE]

I agree time will tell it seems that 'the cat has upset all of the pigeons'.

2019 is a very long way away. Lots could happen in the 4 years intervening period. I think that that nominet have not done anyone any favours.

Nominet have not yet had the huge deluge in registrations that they may have expected. Registrants have had their .co.uk domains devalued. Business has moved towards promoting the .com over their regional domain equivalent due to the uncertainty.

At the same time there has been a huge proliferation in the availability of numerous new domain extensions.

Confidence will return when businesses are forced to register their .uk equivalents and having done so it may seem seem sensible for the marked to begin to promote them over and in preference to the .co.uk equivalents.

Indeed despite all the pundits opinions I wounder how our 'friends at GOOGLE' will view and set an agenda that may benefit them....

the uk market is completely new for me.

so i searched now for some hours, to find good .co .uk and .uk domains.
ok, unsurprisingly near all .co. uk are already taken.

so i found around 26 really good .uk domains.

but if the .co .uk is already taken, then the .uk is reserved for the owner of the .co .uk?
that is really strange... they don't buy it and the domain is free - but in the RIGHTS LOOKUP they are reserved?

in other words, if the .co .uk is not free, you cant buy the .uk aswell - never.
like i wrote i found 26 .uk domains and all are listed up in the rights lookup...

freaky

ps: sorry, but then my thread questions are complete redundant, and i dont understand the discussion here, if you didn't have the .co .uk - you cant buy the new .uk...

Anything registered after 10th June 2014 did not automatically have uk rights.
When domains drop now their UK rights are split from the main domain.
If a domain had uk rights up until 10th June 2014 and hasn't dropped the owners of the rights have until 10th June 2019 to decide if they want to register it so it's not available to anyone else.

@ RobM

thanks for your reply.

i wrote a php script and balanced now over 950 free and "available" .uk domains with the rights lookup and it is NOT POSSIBLE to buy only one.

so i got 950 strikes to get "rich", but all rights of registration has the owner of the .co uk...

freaky

well...2019...