Godaddy has signed up 21 tags ?

Ben Thomas · Jun 29, 2019

I cannot understand how this isn't against AUP? Maybe I'll apply for 5 additional tags

Whois-Search · Jun 29, 2019

inteldigital said:
I cannot understand how this isn't against AUP? Maybe I'll apply for 5 additional tags

The AUP or anti-avoidance clause only applies to using the DAC:

https://registrars.nominet.uk/uk-na...agement/acceptable-use-policy/#anti-avoidance

When you are registering names at 2PM with EPP requests at 150 requests per minute (without using the DAC)... there is currently nothing stopping a member having more than one credit account.

Ben Thomas · Jun 29, 2019

Madness

Siusaidh · Jun 29, 2019

Laissez-Faire, Ben. It's the culture modelled by ICANN years ago, that allows slack oversight of protocols, and enables registries and big registrars huge free range to collaborate in their mutual enrichment: at least, that's what I believe.

bb99 · Jun 29, 2019

Andrew do you know which of these tags, if any, were active on the testbed?

Ben Thomas · Jun 29, 2019

Siusaidh said:
Laissez-Faire, Ben. It's the culture modelled by ICANN years ago, that allows slack oversight of protocols, and enables registries and big registrars huge free range to collaborate in their mutual enrichment: at least, that's what I believe.

Laissez-Faire indeed, man. That's why we can't vote for that Greimann schmuck.

Whois-Search · Jun 29, 2019

bb99 said:
Andrew do you know which of these tags, if any, were active on the testbed?

I’ve only seen Snapnames:

90 NSI-US
74 REGISTER-DOT-COM
72 REGISTER
71 UDOMAINNAME-US
68 SRSPLUS

Hexonet:

59 1API-DE

Key-Systems (rrpproxy):

26 KEY-SYSTEMS-DE

No Godaddy tags tested....

Ben Thomas · Jun 29, 2019

How do you even find out if they've connected to the bed?

Whois-Search · Jun 29, 2019

inteldigital said:
How do you even find out if they've connected to the bed?

Whois and the DAC are on the testbed

So if you check 5000 good names after 2pm you will see who got them

Ben Thomas · Jun 29, 2019

Ah okay, I thought there was some sort of super secret way to see stuff. (Holy fuck, that alliteration though!!!!)

RobM · Jun 29, 2019

Never saw godaddy or 123reg on test - watch how many they 'catch' though

Ben Thomas · Jun 29, 2019

RobM said:
Never saw godaddy or 123reg on test - watch how many they 'catch' though

I was wondering this, I've seen a couple of your posts like this. Is it possible that Nominet may have set up some sort of separate EPP for larger registrars, in secret?

RobM · Jun 29, 2019

No but someone said they have recordings of separate employees at <registrar> saying the <registry> has decided on certain names that are 'premium' and will be making sure they go to <registrar> to be auctioned.
Note I have *no* proof of this (I asked them to get names etc at both <registrar> and <registry> - I was told this will be coming in amongst other evidence of dodgy dealings) and we don't know if <registrar> is just talking rubbish or the person telling me is speaking the truth but will definitely be interesting to see the results next week and follow any repercussions in the next few months. It's probably just hearsay and I'm just conveying the gist. Have I covered my backside legally enough do you think?

Whois-Search · Jun 29, 2019

inteldigital said:
I was wondering this, I've seen a couple of your posts like this. Is it possible that Nominet may have set up some sort of separate EPP for larger registrars, in secret?

I doubt there is a secret EPP connection etc Godaddy (having over 50% of the registry) will just have had better briefing and coordination by account managers.

Nominet might ensure they can get all their pre-orders in etc

Even a guest blog by Eleanor:
https://uk.godaddy.com/blog/countdown-to-register-reserved-uk-domains/

Also they most likely were asked about the credit limits in the first place at the Key Partners event (a week before the Registrar Conference). And they have a member of staff on the board of Nominet itself (although the board didn’t come up with this release mechanism).

As for not testing it...

I thought the same with the .wales .cymru release (Nominet again) however then out of no where came all these Godaddy registrars when it went live:

40. Go China Domains, LLC (GoDaddy Group) 5 0 0.04%

41. Go Australia Domains, LLC (GoDaddy Group) 4 0 0.03%

42. Go Montenegro Domains, LLC (GoDaddy Group) 3 0 0.02%

44. Blue Razor Domains, LLC (GoDaddy Group) 3 0 0.02%

45. Go Canada Domains, LLC (GoDaddy Group) 2 0 0.02%

46. Go France Domains, LLC (GoDaddy Group) 2 0 0.02%

See https://www.ntldstats.com/tld/wales

Each one had the EPP setup to catch.

philiporchard · Jun 29, 2019

I won't get too excited about my £50 booking with CatchTiger for Margate just yet then!

ian · Jun 29, 2019

RobM said:
Never saw godaddy or 123reg on test - watch how many they 'catch' though

For once (and only once) I hope 123reg do very well

RobM · Jun 29, 2019

I'm sure they will

philiporchard · Jun 29, 2019

Were 123reg on a first come basis?

I didn't have much luck with them - only managed to book 14.

developer1 · Jun 29, 2019

I was told by them that it was on a first come basis, but the script they implemented to prevent multiple pre-orders for the same domain only worked for all new pre-orders after the new campaign started (i.e. domain may still have shown as available to pre-order if one had been placed at an earlier date before the ROR campaign). Any caught up in this scenario then aren't shown as pending with the control panel