Can I sell a co.uk and keep the .uk ?

[Tassos]

Can I sell a co.uk and keep the .uk , or I have to give them both?
Thank you

 

[UncleBob]

If they were regged separate before the sale then they are two separate things you have for sale.

If someone bought the .co.uk, then you went and regged the .uk after payment and handed over only the .co.uk, I don't know so much, does not sound right.

It's a somewhat emotive subject that all of us here have a view or opinion of. Me, if it's regged separate and you have only offered / agreed on sale of .co.uk domain, i.e. no mention or request of .uk, then that's that, no obligation.

 

[ian]

If the .uk remains "right of registration" at the time you agree a .co.uk sale, it should be sold with it. If not, do as you please

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[spiderspider]

Can I sell a co.uk and keep the .uk?

Yes!

The joys of a free market.

Stand by for this thread to turn into a 'well you should leave them together' discussion. But, end of the day, its your choice

 

[Tassos]

I haven't accepted the offer yet ( sedo ).
Haven't registered yet the .uk

 

[UncleBob]

I haven't accepted the offer yet ( sedo ).
Haven't registered yet the .uk

i agree entirely with the idea of if they are already separate then sell separate, but to split after getting an offer is, well, something you're going to have to decide for yourself on.

i would suggest that the potential buyer might have done a look up and seen the rights still sat there.

 

[Tassos]

i agree entirely with the idea of if they are already separate then sell separate, but to split after getting an offer is, well, something you're going to have to decide for yourself on.

i would suggest that the potential buyer might have done a look up and seen the rights still sat there.

So, it ends up being an ethical matter and not legal.Right?

 

[UncleBob]

So, it ends up being an ethical matter and not legal.Right?

pretty much. if they are regged separately anyway then, taking the approach Nominet has into consideration, there is no longer a link or relation between the two. to sell and then register the .uk after a deal has been agreed, for me, doesn't seem right.

 

[ian]

So, it ends up being an ethical matter and not legal.Right?

Indeed, though if you agree a sale for the .co.uk whilst .uk 'right of registration' remains intact, I'd question how successful you'd be defending your position if you decide to register the .uk after sale but before transfer.

 

[Tassos]

Indeed, though if you agree a sale for the .co.uk whilst .uk 'right of registration' remains intact, I'd question how successful you'd be defending your position if you decide to register the .uk after sale but before transfer.

I haven't accepted the offer yet ( sedo ).
Haven't registered yet the .uk
I can register the .uk, make a counter offer close to his offer and then accept it.
He made two comments in his bids that I found insulting. There is no ethical question about this for me.

 

[UncleBob]

I haven't accepted the offer yet ( sedo ).
Haven't registered yet the .uk
I can register the .uk, make a counter offer close to his offer and then accept it.
He made two comments in his bids that I found insulting. There is no ethical question about this for me.

then with respect i am not sure what the conversation is here? i, and i am pretty sure no one else here, minds offering an opinion or view, but you seem set on a certain course. good luck with it.

 

[Tassos]

"Can I sell a co.uk and keep the .uk "
technical and legal.
There might be a regulation that I didn't know

 

[UncleBob]

"Can I sell a co.uk and keep the .uk "
technical and legal.
There might be a regulation that I didn't know

fair enough. straightforward answer is yes you can, but if they found out that you had registered the .uk after a sale agreed / paid, they could well have grounds for some sort of claim or action.

as i said, good luck with whatever you decide to do.

 

[ian]

Hmmm, tricky one here because you've already advertised the domain for sale with rights, whether you disclose or not. The offer made might be on that basis and certainly would be if I was purchasing. Partly sedo's failing for not giving an option to confirm whether included. This is why I won't buy from Sedo, too much uncertainty of sellers potentially doing this.

 

[mat]

Think of it like a cake you see in a shop window. It has all the icing and decoration on it in the window, but when you buy the cake and have it delivered it is bare with no decorations.

They could tell you that you just ordered the cake and no decorations but you would want to smash their faces in because the ONE IN THE WINDOW HAD DECORATIONS DAMMIT!!!

"Yeh Yeh, we took off the decorations and sold them to someone else before we sent you the cake. Oh and buy the way these decorations are the only ones in the world that match this exact cake"

I dont know if the above makes much sense, im just hungry.

 

[UncleBob]

Think of it like a cake you see in a shop window. It has all the icing and decoration on it in the window, but when you buy the cake and have it delivered it is bare with no decorations.

They could tell you that you just ordered the cake and no decorations but you would want to smash their faces in because the ONE IN THE WINDOW HAD DECORATIONS DAMMIT!!!

"Yeh Yeh, we took off the decorations and sold them to someone else before we sent you the cake. Oh and buy the way these decorations are the only ones in the world that match this exact cake"

I dont know if the above makes much sense, im just hungry.

i really like cake too.

however, with a .uk, it's not really as blatant or as easy to see as decorations, is it? outside of everyone's favourite Twerker quitter Stephen Fry briefly being the champion of it, it's not like many outside of the domain world even know that .uk exists.

 

[ian]

Think of it like a cake...(other stuff)

Lost me at cake, mmmm

 

[mat]

If someone offered you the .uk with a .co.uk domain name or 2 years daily supply of cake which would you take?

 

[Tassos]

Hmmm, tricky one here because you've already advertised the domain for sale with rights, whether you disclose or not. The offer made might be on that basis and certainly would be if I was purchasing. Partly sedo's failing for not giving an option to confirm whether included. This is why I won't buy from Sedo, too much uncertainty of sellers potentially doing this.

I didn't advertise anything. A domain could have had traffic, links , uk rights etc at a certain time of period. That changes anytime. Buyer is responsible to ask questions about all of these at the time he makes an offer. He could have mentioned it in the comments that sedo allows rather than trying to insult me.

 

[ian]

I didn't advertise anything. A domain could have had traffic, links , uk rights etc at a certain time of period. That changes anytime. Buyer is responsible to ask questions about all of these at the time he makes an offer. He could have mentioned it in the comments that sedo allows rather than trying to insult me.

Ok, well obviously we don't know the history of what has been said to you, so our view is based on what you asked, nothing more. Take it or leave it.

It is a grey area for sure, but if you put a .co.uk up for sale with 'right of registration' on the .uk, then it is sold with. I know my position would be that if I agreed a purchase and then found the seller registered the .uk to exclude from the sale, I'd be taking legal action.

If someone offered you the .uk with a .co.uk domain name or 2 years daily supply of cake which would you take?

Without samples, I couldn't make an educated decision!