Double tragedy

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Turning out even worse than expected;

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-wiltshire-12852499

 

[doodlebug]

When I first heard about her missing after leaving a club at 3am I thought fake taxi although this one looks real at the moment.

Sad that there's been no person presumed missing regarding the 2nd body, maybe only killed and dumped today or a long while ago ?

Let's hope he was a serial killer stopped early on just like the crossbow cannibal.

I think taxis all looking the same would definitely help, maybe you can only buy one brand new or 2nd hand through a specialist dealership and not just from local ads etc and you must prove you have a taxi licence to buy one.

 

[Blossom]

I used to live up the road from that Asda. Have to say I'm really surprised and shocked that that happened, Swindon always struck me as being really safe.

 

[boxerdog]

my wifes always wanted to start up her own taxi company that uses only female taxi drivers, lots of pink taxis
she wouldnt ever get in a taxi on her own

 

[BREWSTERS]

I tell the wife to take a photo of the taxi before getting in and txt it to me. Make sure the driver can see you take the picture. She never does. Maybe she pretends to - probably have the same effect.

 

[BREWSTERS]

Looks like she knew the guy;

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...suspect-taxi-driver-through-his-children.html

 

[Frog]

my wifes always wanted to start up her own taxi company that uses only female taxi drivers, lots of pink taxis
she wouldnt ever get in a taxi on her own

How was she planning to get around employment discrimination laws? There is no legit argument you can make as to why you need female drivers and men are not suitable...

 

[anthony]

How was she planning to get around employment discrimination laws? There is no legit argument you can make as to why you need female drivers and men are not suitable...

Isn't there currently a loophole to allow for this, same as the insurance loophole for female only insurance policies? The latter recently had a nail in the coffin in Europe, so maybe the taxi situation could be changed too!

"The Court banned the practice from December 21, 2012. The date was chosen as it is the fifth anniversdary of the introduction of European Union: Directive 2004/ 113/EC1, which prohibits all discrimination based on sex in the accessto and supply of goods and services."

 

[Blossom]

It was done a few years ago, went into administration

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=e...icial&q=pink+ladies+taxi&aq=f&aqi=g5&aql=&oq=

 

[Frog]

Isn't there currently a loophole to allow for this, same as the insurance loophole for female only insurance policies? The latter recently had a nail in the coffin in Europe, so maybe the taxi situation could be changed too!

"The Court banned the practice from December 21, 2012. The date was chosen as it is the fifth anniversdary of the introduction of European Union: Directive 2004/ 113/EC1, which prohibits all discrimination based on sex in the accessto and supply of goods and services."

There is a massive difference . The insurance companies can prove that males are a higher risk and wanted to quote as such. That taxi thing is nothing more than someone saying they dont want to employ males, with no valid reason as to why.

Although it seems to be perfectly acceptable to discriminate against people... as long as they're white, christian, male and straight. Good luck trying to open a shop with gays banned from working there, or a "no muslims" taxi service

I bought the website of a now closed down company who touted themselves as "the uk's best Gay only travel agency". I wonder how long I'd have lasted if I set up a "No Queers Travel Agency"...

 

[domainseller200]

There is a massive difference . The insurance companies can prove that males are a higher risk and wanted to quote as such. That taxi thing is nothing more than someone saying they dont want to employ males, with no valid reason as to why

But on that basis, it could also be argued that the ratio of convcted male / female rapist or murderers would also show males as a much higher offender rate than a female - I would even go as far to say that the difference is even larger than the risk comparison of male / female drivers.

How often do you hear of a female committing either act ?

 

[Frog]

But on that basis, it could also be argued that the ratio of convcted male / female rapist or murderers would also show males as a much higher offender rate than a female - I would even go as far to say that the difference is even larger than the risk comparison of male / female drivers.

How often do you hear of a female committing either act ?

Well if you were taking out an insurance policy against ever being convicted of rape/murder, I would expect men to be quoted higher too...

The chance of being killed/raped by a taxi driver who came to pick you up from a pre arranged booking (and wasn't an illegal taxi) is so close to non existent its not even relevant...

 

[anthony]

...I bought the website of a now closed down company who touted themselves as "the uk's best Gay only travel agency". I wonder how long I'd have lasted if I set up a "No Queers Travel Agency"...

Ha, makes you wonder if today's catcher of gay.org.uk will actually be able to use it without straying on the wrong side of one law or another?

 

[domainseller200]

Well if you were taking out an insurance policy against ever being convicted of rape/murder, I would expect men to be quoted higher too...

The chance of being killed/raped by a taxi driver who came to pick you up from a pre arranged booking (and wasn't an illegal taxi) is so close to non existent its not even relevant...

Two words - Derrick Bird

 

[domainseller200]

He just happened to be a taxi driver. I don't think he was running his meter when he was out shooting up Cumbria.

I know this

I was waiting for Frog to take the bait - I like reading his debates on here

 

[newguy]

Although it seems to be perfectly acceptable to discriminate against people... as long as they're white, christian, male and straight. .

This world we're in just isn't fair is it. I fear that the white, christian, straight male, shall forever be the underdog. Black, atheist, lesbian women get all the breaks, and drift through life with their riches and privilege.

Back to the main subject at hand, I think the media tends to blow these issues into something larger the life. The chance of getting murderered or raped by a taxi driver is so remote that it doesn't warrant any changes taking place. As long as we manage to arrest the lunatics commiting these crimes, we're doing what needs to be done.

 

[Frog]

I know this

I was waiting for Frog to take the bait - I like reading his debates on here

Lol

Okay what is the difference in these situations... apart from one apparently being completely acceptable and the other being a direct route to hate mail and national newspaper coverage.

Someone setting up a womens only taxi company, as their customers say they feel safer as statistically they are less likely to be raped. I don't think anyone can argue with the fact that a man is more likely to rape someone.

Someone else setting up a taxi company which refuses to employ Muslims, as their customers say they feel safer not traveling with them in case of suicide bombs. I don't think anyone can argue with the fact that a muslim is more likely to blow themself up in a terror related incident.


What is the difference between:

A travel company who call themselves "gay only" and actively try and discriminate against against straight people. Loads of companies doing this, Google "gay holidays".

A hotel discriminating in the other direction, and trying to avoid gay people becoming their customers. Someone tried it, ended up paying damages of £1800 each to the people refused rooms.


Too many people want equality.... but only when it suits them.
Businesses should be allowed to discriminate against whoever they want (and endure the financial repercussions of it) or we should have (and enforce) true equality. If Black police officers can have their own association, maybe white ones should too?

 

[newguy]

Yes. In my opinion it doesn't warrant any changes. Unfortunately the idea that there might be a taxi driver murderer, or a white van man murderer, or some-other-kind-of lone-person-that-can-be-stereotyped murderer out on the loose does attract big headlines. Anyway nobody is on the loose in this situation so the media will have to focus on something else from tomorrow.

Yes, I think you're right. The whole way the news cycle works is rather depressing. I think it makes people temporarily panic about things more than they rationally should, then we all forget about it, and panic about whatever they centre in on next. I guess 24 hours news channels are to blame in part, because they need to drag these things out and make them sound ultra dramatic for hours or days on end.

Of course, I'm really pleased that they caught the guy though. Being that it was a double murder in all likelyhood he'll never see the light of day again, which is how it should be!

 

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Yes. In my opinion it doesn't warrant any changes. Unfortunately the idea that there might be a taxi driver murderer, or a white van man murderer, or some-other-kind-of lone-person-that-can-be-stereotyped murderer out on the loose does attract big headlines. Anyway nobody is on the loose in this situation so the media will have to focus on something else from tomorrow (and someone else who's bored will have to start another thread with a "oh my god" subject and a link to a news web site).

That'd be me then.

Is someone forcing you to post or do you have a choice?

 

[BREWSTERS]

Lol

Okay what is the difference in these situations... apart from one apparently being completely acceptable and the other being a direct route to hate mail and national newspaper coverage.

Someone setting up a womens only taxi company, as their customers say they feel safer as statistically they are less likely to be raped. I don't think anyone can argue with the fact that a man is more likely to rape someone.

Someone else setting up a taxi company which refuses to employ Muslims, as their customers say they feel safer not traveling with them in case of suicide bombs. I don't think anyone can argue with the fact that a muslim is more likely to blow themself up in a terror related incident.

And they're shit drivers