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Hi everyone, posted for the first time on this forum last night, I have to say great response and constructive comments (although I didn’t agree with them all.

Starting doing website design about 15 years ago, then moved into website marketing, SEO and adwords then moved into database mining about 10 months ago.

We work for a couple of companies directly doing lead generation cost per lead or by way of virtual sale taking a larger commission on sales.

We have about 200 domains mainly affiliate marketing sites

I look forward to hearing your views and comments on the forum
 
Hi James,

Interesting history you have there. Do you primarily register the domains you get or do you do backorders or buy on secondary market?
 
plain and simple

I tend to just buy the domains as and when I need them. The main thing is to have the keywords in the domain. If the competition for that keywords isnt silly, most sites can be on the front page within 10 to 12 weeks.

I did think about secondary market place but to be honest the money you spend is better spent on SEO or even adwords. Its just my view of course, and it works for me.

HBFinvestmentproperties for example was built in Dec 2009, by Feb we were on the front page for "investment properties". I think we are now 3 or 4 on google.

what are you up too?
 
I tend to just buy the domains as and when I need them. The main thing is to have the keywords in the domain. If the competition for that keywords isnt silly, most sites can be on the front page within 10 to 12 weeks.

I did think about secondary market place but to be honest the money you spend is better spent on SEO or even adwords. Its just my view of course, and it works for me.

HBFinvestmentproperties for example was built in Dec 2009, by Feb we were on the front page for "investment properties". I think we are now 3 or 4 on google.

what are you up too?

I suppose it may not matter as much for .co.uk. We deal mainly in com/net/org domains (primarily generic keyword but also some brandable and aged domains) and getting decent quality com/net/org domains that are available is getting harder and harder. We just buy and sell domains with some brokering/consulting, no development or anything. I've been doing it for about 7 years now, 3 and a half years full-time.

Buying on secondary market really depends on where you're looking. If you're looking on Sedo or Afternic, it will probably be hard to find a good deal. On forums though, you're more likely to get wholesale pricing from people vs. retail, and a domain that could easily hand you a top ranking without much more work involved may not cost as much as you think. :)
 
3.5 years full time

Thats really good, I didnt think there was that much money in domains without listings or at least a PR rating.
 
Thats really good, I didnt think there was that much money in domains without listings or at least a PR rating.

My philosophy is to get domains based on the things that for the most part don't change - name quality, strong extension, and age. PR comes and goes like the wind on many domains and if a bad domain with PR is bought, it's completely worthless if it loses that PR. Ultimately, SEO benefits of exact keyword matching domains, especially in primary extensions like com/net/org, weigh heavily enough that I've had no shortage of buyers for such names over the past few years, and likewise the benefit of domain age has brought many buyers looking for those as well (though name quality is still generally more important in such names - i.e. if it's a brandable aged domain, it still has to be a solid quality brand potential).
 
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good luck

Thanks! FYI since you signed up to DailyDomainNames.com updates, we just posted a new list there about an hour ago.

Honestly I think there's room for both mentalities by the way - people going after PR/links and people going after name quality and/or age - I'm sure some people have SEO expertise such that domains with heavy links/PR benefits them the most while others have different expertise such that exact keyword match and/or aged domains benefit them the most. There's many different realms of opportunity in domains, SEO and development and most people gravitate towards only one or a couple of them. I have actually had and sold PR domains and do have a few still with PR, but honestly I'm better at going after name quality and age than PR. It's all a matter of opportunity vs. the competition to seize that opportunity, and PR to me is too competitive an area to target and not one that I have much expertise in anyways.
 
My partner in Domainate who has been heavily involved in email marketing for well over a decade owns/operates that business. It's very good at ensuring high deliverability of newsletters and she has a number of really active clients. Additionally, she owns and operates Email List Cleaning as well for purging bad emails from email lists.
 
I have a customer

I have a customer who has a problem.

They want tracking of email
They have their own DB (approx 30,000)

They deal in properties and want to send out the property deals within the emails, I think the best on the market seems to be infusion soft but this will not allow them to automate the process

any suggestions?
 
I have a customer who has a problem.

They want tracking of email
They have their own DB (approx 30,000)

They deal in properties and want to send out the property deals within the emails, I think the best on the market seems to be infusion soft but this will not allow them to automate the process

any suggestions?

Can you specify what you mean by automate the process? If you mean autoresponder service, ListCast doesn't have autoresponder services...yet. That said, it does do tracking as well as scheduling of emails, and assuming you have people select their location and/or other info when signing up, it has targeting as well. It's pretty easy to make emails in the interface and easy to work off of previously made emails as well, which is what I generally do - load up a previously sent email, change the title and some of the body of the email and it's done.

The main thing is maintaining high deliverability, which Listcast does extremely well. I'm subscribed to a lot of internet marketing newsletters and honestly many of the ones from InfusionSoft and Aweber hit my junk mail folder either in Gmail or Outlook. Having fully automated autoresponder is great unless your list isn't getting your emails - then it's pointless, even somewhat detrimental since you may have no idea why your open rates are low.
 
yep, good point

I will try http://www.listcast.com/features/index.rwp with another customer who has about 3000 in his DB.

I think the property guy needs a custom solution

He has a DB list of property investors
He has a DB list of new properties

He wants to have an automatic system to send out his new properties to the investors rather than have a template which needs to have the property information inputted manually.

Not sure I am explaining this very well; anyway I have told him it’s a custom job to integrate with his current bespoke software solution.
 
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