Possible Hijacking help needed

[SF]

Hi

I think I have had a .com hijacked? Its now showing a new owner not myself!
I have emailed my old .com registrars and they have not replied back yet I have emailed the new owner to ask how he acquired it and he sent me this back...

Dear Mr. Flynn:

We have received your email regarding the domain pianohire.com.

1) upon receipt of a copy of a valid trademark, we can move the domain into an account for you to manage, so long as there is a notarized letter stating that you are the owner of the trademark.

2) If there is no trademark, but you have a business license, we need a copy of a notarized letter that you are a representative of that business.

Please, fax all documents to our attorneys at (305) 574-7979 for their review.

If you need further assistance do not hesitate to contact us.

Best regards

Sales Team



Didnt know you needed a trademark to own a .com

 

[zehrila]

WHAT THE HECK sounds so weird RANG UP YOUR REGISTRAR instead of emails, hope some pro would hook you up with some nice advise.
Best of Luck

 

[SF]

Cheers for the reply matey

Got a reply from my registrars, who I think are quite worried at the fact that my domain name that is still sat in my control panel is now owned by a company in Vancover!

They even have it listed on the website for sale, when it should be on my website for sale

Edwin, do you know what happens out what the possible out come could be, I know you stock quite a few .coms?

 

[domaingenius]

I would think that they will be quite worried given the fiasco with sex.com and the responsibility put by the Court on Registrars. I would guess that you could claim compensation.
DG

 

[Beasty]

I would think that they will be quite worried given the fiasco with sex.com and the responsibility put by the Court on Registrars. I would guess that you could claim compensation.
DG

For info on the sex.com case - which includes decisions about liability when a domain is transferred without proper authority - it's worth looking at www.sexdotcom.info

 

[SF]

Thanks guys,

Just got an email from my registrars which I thought I would show you.

Dear Sean,

We can get it back for you if you require for £9.99?

Regards

I am of course going to pay the £9.99

Good outcome!

Admin pls lock the thread.

 

[domaingenius]

Thanks guys,

Just got an email from my registrars which I thought I would show you.

Dear Sean,

We can get it back for you if you require for £9.99?

Regards

I am of course going to pay the £9.99

Good outcome!

Admin pls lock the thread.

Is that not like blackmail ?? If the domain was alreday yours then what have they got to "get it back" for and from ?.

DG

 

[rob]

yup... would await it being back in your name before anything...!

 

[SF]

Got me thinking now, If the domain name is not mine anymore - what is the £9.99 for

 

[retired_member6]

If someone has nicked your domain then kick up a fuss. And tell them to shove the £9.99 and if anything they should be paying you.

 

[SF]

Lee I know your right! Its just not in my nature to start kicking up a fuss, although it's very worrying as I do have quite a few .coms I am checking them all now as we speak!

I Should of been onto this weeks or months ago, its my fault I suppose

 

[retired_member6]

Any company that charges a fee when something has been stolen should own up and do their utmost to a) get the domain back and b) ensure it never happens again. Not look to profit from the situation and at the same time look like they're a part of the scam.

But we deal with things as individuals. If it was me, their company name and all emails would be on their way to an internet magazine by now...

 

[SF]

Any company that charges a fee when something has been stolen should own up and do their utmost to a) get the domain back and b) ensure it never happens again. Not look to profit from the situation and at the same time look like they're a part of the scam.

Yes very true, hhmmm

 

[domaingenius]

Look, if they can get it back,as they say, then they must know the person who stole it from you ,or are involved. What would I do, if it was a good name (or I was that P'd off) ?. I would firstly call them and record the call and ask them a few pertinent questions. Calling is always good coz you dont give them time to think of their reply. Then if you dont like what you hear ,and depending what you hear, I would finish up by telling them you are going to inform the fraud squad at the local police . Then again may be an innocent mistake somewhere ?.

DG

 

[SF]

Thanks again guys!

Just getting the name back now so they say. They wanted payment before anything was done

Oh well never mind.

 

[retired_member6]

If you paid the £9.99, keep a note of who held the domain and all other details, you never know in a few months time the situation could blow up with an employee and several thousand pounds in £9.99s involved. Why you should pay a fee when someone ended up with your domain I don't know, are they a reputable company?

 

[texidriver]

I would firstly call them and record the call and ask them a few pertinent questions.

recording a call if you do not inform the other party that it maybe recorded has no standing in law.

 

[sneezycheese]

recording a call if you do not inform the other party that it maybe recorded has no standing in law.

Unless of course you are a registered Data Controller with the IC Office and the information is being collected for what is termed "lawful purposes"

 

[domaingenius]

I would firstly call them and record the call and ask them a few pertinent questions.

recording a call if you do not inform the other party that it maybe recorded has no standing in law.

Wrong. I spoke to the IC and asked them if it was ok and they said yes and long as I am private person .You do not need to tell them you are recording it. Indeed I have someone up in Court in next 6 months or so and such evidence will be a part of my claim. Also, even if the tape cannotn be used in Court to support the claim it can be used to prove perjury afterwards. In short ,as you as private person can record any call without telling them.

DG

 

[bobby sands]

interestingly enough there is an article involving such action on the bbc today, by ian blair no less!

anyhow at the end of the article it states

"It is not illegal for individuals to tape conversations providing the recording is for their own use, under the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 2000 (RIPA).

It is a civil, not criminal, matter if a conversation or email has been recorded and shared unlawfully.

And, legally, recording or monitoring are only prohibited where some of the contents of the communication are made available to a third party.

If a person intends to make the conversation available to a third party, they must first obtain the consent of the person being recorded."

from: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4800172.stm


so yeah, i guess it seems you can record it and you are not breaking the law... and also, it is only a civil matter if you breach this, not criminal.