Sedo Nominet Tag

[sedo]

Hi Everybody,

After exploring all legal, efficiency and cost isssues, we have decided to get ourselves a Nominet IPS-Tag. Myself and Nora are working on this at the moment, and I will let you all know as soon as I can when this will be up and running.

When we do get this going, it should be good for all you co.uk sellers out there, as it will provide us and you with an insurance policy against buyers not sending us a tag, meaning we can pay out more quickly.

I'll keep you posted.

Shaun

[email protected]

 

[wazzer]

great news

 

[Edwin]

Sounds like an excellent move!

 

[retired_member11]

but no catching allowed

 

[Nigel]

but no catching allowed

Sedo might not be automatically catching yet but DomCollect are already registering 'on the drop' - see fasttracks.co.uk which dropped earlier today.

Rob posted this about DomCollect recently:

I had the 'we are buying' email so asked if they were sedo - replied:

"DomCollect is a subsidiary of Sedo GmbH. We are in the business to acquire premium and traffic-earning domains."

Looks like there's going to be a bit more healthy competition for .uk domains

 

[retired_member11]

Sedo might not be automatically catching yet but DomCollect are already registering 'on the drop' - see fasttracks.co.uk which dropped earlier today.

Rob posted this about DomCollect recently:

I had the 'we are buying' email so asked if they were sedo - replied:

"DomCollect is a subsidiary of Sedo GmbH. We are in the business to acquire premium and traffic-earning domains."

Looks like there's going to be a bit more healthy competition for .uk domains

Nigel, why is DomCollect a Swiss registered corp? Tax, or some other reason?

 

[Nigel]

Nigel, why is DomCollect a Swiss registered corp? Tax, or some other reason?

Not sure, perhaps Sedo will let us know

 

[retired_member6]

Sedo might not be automatically catching yet but DomCollect are already registering 'on the drop' - see fasttracks.co.uk which dropped earlier today.

Rob posted this about DomCollect recently:

I had the 'we are buying' email so asked if they were sedo - replied:

"DomCollect is a subsidiary of Sedo GmbH. We are in the business to acquire premium and traffic-earning domains."

Looks like there's going to be a bit more healthy competition for .uk domains

Well they don't half buy some crap domains, ones I wouldn't even touch. I might take all my domains off of sedo then, I'll not fund the people I compete with in that way, not that it's a lot anyway but it's the principle.

 

[retired_member6]

So I'm competing with sedo via domcollect then? Nah aint having it, no more parking with sedo, they did recently invite me to sedo pro but if I wasn't good enough back then, why now. I aint giving money to a competitor in this way, fair enough through buying domains but eh? Madness.

 

[retired_member6]

Nah, that's it, if that's true domcollect are sedo, that's it, I'm not doing any more with them and I suggest you all move away.

 

[retired_member6]

If anyone works on a domaining news website, get the word out, I saw that domcollect arrive but had no idea that it was sedo. That's the last I'll say on it as I'm talking to myself anyway. four star em.

 

[retired_member6]

So go on then, indulge me, you're all happy with sedo getting a tag? They already compete with me, now they're going to invest thousands and compete with you, if they enjoy competing with me and doing me over, they won't just stop there. But all is fair in compeititon even if they're doing over their customers, is that right?

 

[Paullas]

So go on then, indulge me, you're all happy with sedo getting a tag? They already compete with me, now they're going to invest thousands and compete with you, if they enjoy competing with me and doing me over, they won't just stop there. But all is fair in compeititon even if they're doing over their customers, is that right?

How are they competing with you? sorry if i missed this but can you show me how.

 

[retired_member6]

How are they competing with you? sorry if i missed this but can you show me how.

I get domains when they drop, domcollect get domains when they drop, I missed morphosis.co.uk this morning. They've got it now, sedo's subsidiary company, domcollect - allegedly, I still want them to say it directly to me. When domcollect get a tag, they will be competing with you as well. Stand up, move out and shun sedo for all our sakes.

I've been competing with sedo for months, fair enough, most they end up with is rubbish I wouldn't reg but some are good, like the above that I failed somehow not to get this morning because I regd spanish c**p, but I think the list did two updates otherwise I'd have seen it, it did an hour update after as well where others filtered through and suddenly appeared at an earlier time.

 

[sedo]

First of all, DomCollect is a subsidiary of Sedo, that information is openly available and we have never tried to hide this. Go to www.domcollect.com if you would like more information.

<b>Competition>:</b>
The advantage of having a subsidiary such as DomCollect is that we can use our own domain portfolios as test cases for new parking layouts. We don't need to go to our customers to find out if new parking layouts are working well, which is obviously beneficial for both us and our customers in terms of time and efficiency. What we learn from our own domain portfolios can also be introduced into our trading platform.

As far as being in competition with our own customers goes, our subisidiary does exactly that which DomainSponsor, Namedrive, Fabulous and others do - they all trade their own domains, register domains, and catch domains as DomCollect does.

The reason Sedo is getting its own IPS-Tag is to improve and speed up our transfer process to the benefit of our customers and transfer agents. That doesn't mean DomCollect will never use the IPS-Tag, but this is something that anyone can do and it does not give Sedo or DomCollect any unfair advantages.

Shaun

[email protected]

 

[retired_member6]

First of all, DomCollect is a subsidiary of Sedo, that information is openly available and we have never tried to hide this. Go to www.domcollect.com if you would like more information.

<b>Competition>:</b>
The advantage of having a subsidiary such as DomCollect is that we can use our own domain portfolios as test cases for new parking layouts. We don't need to go to our customers to find out if new parking layouts are working well, which is obviously beneficial for both us and our customers in terms of time and efficiency. What we learn from our own domain portfolios can also be introduced into our trading platform.

As far as being in competition with our own customers goes, our subisidiary does exactly that which DomainSponsor, Namedrive, Fabulous and others do - they all trade their own domains, register domains, and catch domains as DomCollect does.

The reason Sedo is getting its own IPS-Tag is to improve and speed up our transfer process to the benefit of our customers and transfer agents. That doesn't mean DomCollect will never use the IPS-Tag, but this is something that anyone can do and it does not give Sedo or DomCollect any unfair advantages.

Shaun

[email protected]

In your eyes it's acceptable, in my eyes it is as well, you are in direct competition with me which is why I deleted over 600 domains from sedo today, I only hope you get a tag soon and leave me the hell alone and chase better domains and annoy the **** out of domainers with tags - thats why you aint done it yet.

I aint using you anymore and if namedrive do the same, then they can clear off and all, but they're yet to be seen to be in direct competition with me as sedo are currently, right now, you've been doing it for months and you don't get more hidey seeky than an 'individual' using 'trading as'.

I don't swallow your waffle and excuses, you are competing with me and I'm sick of it. As someone said to me earlier, shows your business model is going down the drain and parking is changing for the worse even more so now you directly compete with your customer base. Yes it's for parking trials... yes alright son.

So enjoy morphosis and at least have half the decency to put it up for sale, I've enquired but I aint got a lot so you 'll end up keeping it probably. I aint happy, you do as you please, I only hope more wise up to what you're doing and dump you. Compete with me, fair enough, now to see how I can destroy my competition.

No cheers
Lee

 

[retired_member6]

oh and furthermore, I don't trust your company, low bids all the time, who's buying I wonder... see further down and elsewhere for more concerns, and trust you to broker? What if domcollect is the buyer? How many have they bought through sedo? sharing keyword prices and enabling better traffic knowing there's more to be had on words so bidding low, nah, shut it down, once people find out I can't see them being very happy.

Meanwhile, I have to compete with your company to buy domains, great, get a tag and leave me the hell alone and chase better domains.

*then again maybe it's best no tag at least i have a chance of getting the domains we both seem to go after.

 

[Whois-Search]

So Schlund are the ones catching names under the tag FASTHOSTS:

http://www.deleting.co.uk/caught/?d...bmit=Search&filter=1&day=2&month=05&year=2007

Wondered who that was.....

You would think though as your membership is linked to 1&1 www.1and1.co.uk you would be using your DAC lookups to check the availability of customers names.

So much for the "large registrars" wanting more DAC lookups for a reason.....

http://www.nominet.org.uk/digitalAssets/17276_Access_Limits_Policy.pdf

 

[retired_member6]

So Schlund are the ones catching names under the tag FASTHOSTS:

http://www.deleting.co.uk/caught/?d...bmit=Search&filter=1&day=2&month=05&year=2007

Wondered who that was.....

You would think though as your membership is linked to 1&1 www.1and1.co.uk you would be using your DAC lookups to check the availability of customers names.

So much for the "large registrars" wanting more DAC lookups for a reason.....

http://www.nominet.org.uk/digitalAssets/17276_Access_Limits_Policy.pdf

There's a few using fasthosts as they're open to all? as would be expected but would be interested in knowing via prss how many domains domcollect has got and which ones (pm me someone - ha), maybe they've annoyed me more than most because they got some nice ones I would have liked. It's just my luck, I should get out of this game, it's gonna get nasty.

 

[Whois-Search]

At the end of the day Sedo, Fasthosts and UKreg are all owned by Schlund http://www.unitedinternet.de

This means as one Nominet member they are only allowed one DAC:

http://www.nic.uk/other/dac/aup/

So they have 432,000 queries to spread across the whole of their sites i.e. Fasthosts, 1and1, Ukreg, Sedo and now DomCollect.

I was all for giving large registrars more DAC lookups under the new access limits policy:

http://www.nominet.org.uk/digitalAssets/17276_Access_Limits_Policy.pdf

But now they are using DAC lookups for "dropcatching" I can see this changing everything......See waiting lists on:

http://www.nic.uk/digitalAssets/18079_PAB_work_programme.pdf

However at the moment anyway Schlund can use their DAC lookups however they like just like we all do. Also I don't want waiting lists either however some people see them as the answer to this dropcatching problem i.e. the wider stakeholder community has more chance of getting names and Nominet's resources are not exploited by the member.