Subject-specific thread: NO to direct.uk

[foz]

The vote currently at http://dnc.org.nz/second_level_proposal_c2 stands thus;

52% yes
48% no

and not one domainer among them

 

[Stephen]

vote

What do you think is the acceptable level of percentage in favour for Nominet to push it through? e.g. if its 50% in favour does that justify it being rammed through? My thoughts are ~90% in favour to justify it becoming a reality, that is it has to be overwhelmingly accepted by the community to proceed.

does it not make a huge difference on how they contact stakeholders including all uk registrant and what Nominet tell them

although in normal situations it is the number of votes - it is usually a clear 2 or more alternatives

here it will be a vote to say you can have .uk based on our proposal but we will just change a few things depending on the feedback but sorry we cannot tell you what the changes will be before you vote!

 

[foz]

does it not make a huge difference on how they contact stakeholders including all uk registrant and what Nominet tell them

Yes. Did I say otherwise?

Nominet only emailed registrars over V1 consult, so the outcome will be skewed to that sector.

 

[GreyWing]

Yes. Did I say otherwise?

Nominet only emailed registrars over V1 consult, so the outcome will be skewed to that sector.

I don't think from memory they did even that mate. I think they only emailed those who were registered for the Nom Announce mailing lists. A lot of registrars still have no clue about all this.

 

[Stephen]

would a vote be of all eligible stakeholders?

Yes. Did I say otherwise?

Nominet only emailed registrars over V1 consult, so the outcome will be skewed to that sector.

No you did not.

Your original post, I was commenting on was:

What do you think is the acceptable level of percentage in favour for Nominet to push it through? e.g. if its 50% in favour does that justify it being rammed through? My thoughts are ~90% in favour to justify it becoming a reality, that is it has to be overwhelmingly accepted by the community to proceed.

I was simply trying to add a comment on it is a % of those that actually vote
and people will not vote if they don't know about it,
if Nominet does not tell the wider UK stakeholder community (registrants in particular) it will be a skewed vote,
which therefore would not fully represent the views of the UK namespace stakeholders.

As for V1, Nominet did not originally contact all UK registrars about the consultation process it was only those registrars on the nom-annouce list and they never provided that number despite being requested for it several times.

Nominet did hold a Registrar meeting on 21st November 2012 which was before the end of the consultation where the matter of direct.uk was discussed.

Regarding V2 detail, it will be interesting to see if Nominet frame it as a vote for or againist .uk.

 

[foz]

@GreyWing Yep, I think your right.

@Stephen Sorry for be snappy.

 

[Edwin]

She didn't phrase it like that, I did in my tweet to her. However, she said that from memory, the question would be 1a on the questionnaire.

 

[foz]

One hopes it doesn't mention or label it as "direct.uk" or "Direct UK" as that was just a marketing tactic in the V1 consult.

 

[murph]

direct.uk offers nothing but confusion and should be scrapped.

+1

 

[scooter]

+1