.UK Announced

[Alien]

The whole thing is still hypothetical though is it not?! LOL.

 

[Stephen]

The whole thing is still hypothetical though is it not?! LOL.

Until 26th February 2013 Nominet Board meeting plus the delay in making the announcement which has typically been 2 weeks before release of board minutes.

Lets hope they make this annoucement a bit quicker than normal!

 

[Whois-Search]

I see a new campaign for agreatplacetobe.co.uk was launched today:

http://twitter.com/#!/outsideline/status/296736116718051328

 

[Marcoose]

I see a new campaign for agreatplacetobe.co.uk was launched today:

http://twitter.com/#!/outsideline/status/296736116718051328

"I sell a very British product – traditional sweets – so a trusted web address is the key to my success.”

Too bad the people that supplied you with your web address don't consider it to be trusted, love!

 

[anthony]

I see a new campaign for agreatplacetobe.co.uk was launched today:

http://twitter.com/#!/outsideline/status/296736116718051328

Too bad that Nominet have converted just their web addresses to images on the home page.

Better than that though, tradeplumbing.co.uk obviously feel the need to have a .com address, just in case maybe: http://clayton-horsnell.com/. Can't blame them, as .com is also a great place to be too! :-D

 

[viceroy]

Is there an online link to listen to that?

I haven't found the ad online yet but will be in touch with Lincs fm tomorrow anyway. The whole new advertising campaign started today. It really hurts that they can go ahead and spend on advertising for .co.uk in nation wide media but do relatively little for direct.uk consultation which has sailed...

Apart from these latest developments and with a bit of introspection i've come to realise that, I, and every other affected stakeholder that hasn't taken up the option of membership and being more vocal where applicable has some degree of responsibility for the current state of affairs. I seem to recall that after the last egm stakeholders were going to take a closer look at all policy development (special resolution 1b? ordinary resolution 4a?) and hold the senior management to account for their actions if they erred. I think I've put too much trust in the Nominet board (the middle management and frontline staff tend to be pretty good overall in my experience) and I hope we can get some changes this year.

 

[viceroy]

Too bad that Nominet have converted just their web addresses to images on the home page.

Better than that though, tradeplumbing.co.uk obviously feel the need to have a .com address, just in case maybe: http://clayton-horsnell.com/. Can't blame them, as .com is also a great place to be too! :-D

and .org.uk and .me.uk. I wonder what he'd say if asked why he registered .org.uk and .me.uk? After all, they're not commercial extensions. Maybe it's because he doesn't have a trademark and thinks that registering all possible exts. will protect him?

 

[Systreg]

and .org.uk and .me.uk. I wonder what he'd say if asked why he registered .org.uk and .me.uk? After all, they're not commercial extensions. Maybe it's because he doesn't have a trademark and thinks that registering all possible exts. will protect him?

He likes protecting his name/brand, from a quick glance he also owns tradeplumbing.com, .net, .org, .biz and .info, along with trade-plumbing.me.uk, trade-plumbing.org.uk, trade-plumbing.net, trade-plumbing.org, trade-plumbing.me, trade-plumbing.tv, trade-plumbing.biz and trade-plumbing.info

 

[foz]

Notice the "TM" next to .co.uk.

I wonder when the "right to use your .co.uk fee" will be launched

 

[GreyWing]

Notice the "TM" next to .co.uk.

I wonder when the "right to use your .co.uk fee" will be launched

That's the daft thing Garth, Nominet want it both ways. They no more own rights in co.uk than I own hgv.co.uk. So how can they claim to have trademarked it whilst saying non of us have rights?

.uk is owned by ICANN, so if Nominet are saying they can trademark co.uk then the principle is set that I have rights in hgv.co.uk

hgv.co.uk is just one step further away from the source than .co.uk, the precedent has been established by Nominet. That precedent does matter whether your domain is one stage away of 50 sub domains away, it can be TM'd and rights have been established.

ICANN can remove .uk from Nominet and give is to another UK company to administer if they wish.

Nominet's double standards again, although when it gets tested in court, Nominet's argument can't stand logically.

 

[foz]

http://www.icann.org/en/about/agreements/cctlds

A somewhat vague exchange of each responsibilities.

http://www.icann.org/en/about/agreements/cctlds/uk/nominet-icann-letters-02may06-en.pdf

http://www.icann.org/en/resources/cctlds/delegation

(b) TLD Manager Responsibility. TLD managers are trustees for the delegated domain, and have a duty to serve the community. The designated manager is the trustee of the TLD for both the nation, in the case of ccTLDs, and the global Internet community. Concerns about "rights" and "ownership" of domains are inappropriate. It is appropriate, however, to be concerned about "responsibilities" and "service" to the community.

 

[aZooZa]

Nominet's TM application for .co.uk:

http://www.ipo.gov.uk/domestic?domesticnum=2631157
9th August 2012 - status 'examined'
Other marks: http://www.ipo.gov.uk/t-find-adp?propnum=0751643001

 

[anthony]

Nominet's TM application for .co.uk:

http://www.ipo.gov.uk/domestic?domesticnum=2631157
9th August 2012 - status 'examined'
Other marks: http://www.ipo.gov.uk/t-find-adp?propnum=0751643001

For .co.uk, that's comical! I'm going to raise an objection to that one!

 

[aZooZa]

For .co.uk, that's comical! I'm going to raise an objection to that one!

So might the UK Co-operative - they have a granted mark on it too.

 

[GreyWing]

For .co.uk, that's comical! I'm going to raise an objection to that one!

It's hard to know if that is the right thing to do mate, it is 50/50. If they get it granted then it is precedent for everyone to have rights in domain names, something that Nominet have always said was not allowed.

The very fact that they applied for it shows that they believe that their are rights available in it. Something that will come up in any case should .uk go ahead.

So I guess it is too late for them to remove that coming up now anyway. The stuff from Nominet is staggering, not because of what they are doing but they are so incompetent in trying to pull this off. No long term vision to how it can be used against them.

 

[Stephen]

agreatplacetobe.co.uk makeover?

I see a new campaign for agreatplacetobe.co.uk was launched today:

http://twitter.com/#!/outsideline/status/296736116718051328

Has the website agreatplacetobe.co.uk also had a makeover?

I cannot be sure but it looks like some work has been done it?

On some investigation link *313 by Edwin on this thread
http://www.agreatplacetobe.co.uk/why-uk/
with the extensions no longer resolves.
Not good SEO for a marketing site not to redirect.

They don't seem to have left a blank space for .uk on which UK?

When Nominet were asked why do you still have a campagin "a great place to be" during the .uk proposal, it was they were promoting UK domains and not just .co.uk.

 

[foz]

Has the website agreatplacetobe.co.uk also had a makeover?

Yes, some additions. TM appearing over .co.uk extension.

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://agreatplacetobe.co.uk

 

[Stephen]

DNSSEC - knowthenet.co.uk?

Security smokescreen.

Still looking into Nominet proposal and its flaws and where Nominet have mislead people.

Just checked out "knowthenet.co.uk" Nominet's website for

Stay Safe
Stay Legal
Stay informed​

to try and find information about DNSSEC and how important it is?

For those that dont know DNSSEC was one of the central compulsory measures that made .uk more secure than .co.uk and .org.uk.

No results or trace of DNSSEC being a solution to help prevent cybercrime on the website.

http://www.knowthenet.co.uk/search/node/dnssec

Also if you type in ".uk" to search box and press the search button - something odd happens!

 

[Nigel]

Security smokescreen.

Still looking into Nominet proposal and its flaws and where Nominet have mislead people.

Just checked out "knowthenet.co.uk" Nominet's website for

Stay Safe
Stay Legal
Stay informed​

to try and find information about DNSSEC and how important it is?

For those that dont know DNSSEC was one of the central compulsory measures that made .uk more secure than .co.uk and .org.uk.

No results or trace of DNSSEC being a solution to help prevent cybercrime on the website.

http://www.knowthenet.co.uk/search/node/dnssec

Also if you type in ".uk" to search box and press the search button - something odd happens!

Agree with this Stephen. See my bolded section in this official OFCOM report into DNSSEC. Strange that Nominet never discovered the same facts in their interviews and surveys!

"The biggest barrier to DNSSEC deployment is the inability to quantify the benefit gained by its deployment. In interviews, ISPs and other hosting companies all say that there is no customer demand for DNSSEC. While they understand the benefit for authenticating DNS queries, they have no economic justification for its development or deployment. With the signing of the second-level domain for .UK one of the biggest barriers to deployment has been removed."

http://stakeholders.ofcom.org.uk/internet/domain-name-security/

 

[MattB]

What's the likelihood of it going through? When is the final decision being made?