Wanted: Domain Appraisal visitunitedkingdom.co.uk

[Redkite]

You guys reckon that the names of small towns like Coatbridge are worth over £3000. Therefore can you please tell me what visitunitedkingdom.co.uk is worth ......when it CONTAINS little places like England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland, London, Yorkshire, Manchester, Cardiff, Kent, Leeds, Liverpool , Edinburgh , Birmingham, Sheffield etc etc.
They are SLIGHTLY more important than Runcorn and Coatbridge......so what is my domain worth , please?

By the way, I also have visitsheffield.com !!

 

[bensd]

You guys reckon that the names of small towns like Coatbridge are worth over £3000. Therefore can you please tell me what visitunitedkingdom.co.uk is worth ......when it CONTAINS little places like England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland, London, Yorkshire, Manchester, Cardiff, Kent, Leeds, Liverpool , Edinburgh , Birmingham, Sheffield etc etc.
They are SLIGHTLY more important than Runcorn and Coatbridge......so what is my domain worth , please?

By the way, I also have visitsheffield.com !!

Stop hijacking his thread and make your own in the right section:

Domain Appraisals, Website Reviews

 

[Redkite]

Well, you call it "hijacking", whereas I am making comparisons. I am being told by a bloke's mate that names of certain towns are a "steal". What's that statement for? To encourage someone to buy domains off a guy's mate?
I am just saying that if those town names are worth over £3000, then what is the value of something really IMPORTANT involving the WHOLE COUNTRY ??

In other words, I am providing a counter-balance to the opinion that these are a "steal". If these are indeed worth £3000 each ...PLUS...then it must follow that domain names of bigger cities and the UNITED KINGDOM ITSELF are worth FAR more.
Has the seller approached the Chambers of Commerce of the said towns to try and sell the domains?

 

[julian]

imho those names are pretty worthless at the moment, if you can't understand or disagree with that, then you need to spend some time reading this forum to understand why...

if you put them up here you'll be lucky to get ££

Well, you call it "hijacking", whereas I am making comparisons. I am being told by a bloke's mate that names of certain towns are a "steal". What's that statement for? To encourage someone to buy domains off a guy's mate?
I am just saying that if those town names are worth over £3000, then what is the value of something really IMPORTANT involving the WHOLE COUNTRY ??

In other words, I am providing a counter-balance to the opinion that these are a "steal". If these are indeed worth £3000 each ...PLUS...then it must follow that domain names of bigger cities and the UNITED KINGDOM ITSELF are worth FAR more.
Has the seller approached the Chambers of Commerce of the said towns to try and sell the domains?

 

[Redkite]

Hang on Julian !
Will you explain yourself , please . WHICH domains are "pretty useless" ?
Are you referring to "visit" domains? Why would they be useless if umpteen locations around the world use the visit prefix for their OFFICIAL sites?
Visitbritain.com is the official site for Britain. Wales,Scotland, London, Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Finland, Flanders, Belgium , Chicago, New England, Singapore etc etc are examples of places that use the visitplace.com format to market official sites. Even the European Travel Commission uses visiteurope.com.
The California Travel and Tourism Association has long used visitcalifornia.com . I sold them visitcalifornia.co.uk in 2007 for £1200 [Sterling]. Too cheap.....but not bad for "useless" !! My former domain is now used to market California on UK TV. I sold visitbavaria.co.uk for around £1200 , as well and turned down £2600 on Sedo for visitbratislava.com .

So, if you consider that "visit" domains are "useless" let's discuss it !! Who exactly are the experts in this field?

 

[GreyWing]

Why do you ask then when you know how much they are worth? you ask for a view and tell them they are wrong!

If people don't like honest opinions don't ask.

 

[Redkite]

I don't understand this. One man [ Julian] on this forum gives his opinion. Then when I reply,another man[ Grey wing] replies instead of Julian. Why does one person speak on another's behalf?
I did not say what the value of visitunitedkingdom.co.uk and visitsheffield.com were....which is what Julian referred to. I compared them to Dunstable et al.
What criteria is Julian using to evaluate Visit domains? How can visitunitedkingdom.co.uk be "useless" when visitbritain.co.uk is being used alongside the .com version to market the whole of Britain? The latter domain, after MILLIONS have been spent on marketing it ....is now WORTH MILLIONS!! The marketing around THE BRAND has made it worth millions.

I said what I had sold visitcalifornia.co.uk and visitbavaria.co.uk for.
Now , visitunitedkingdom.co.uk and visitSheffield.com should be worth a lot more. That is by applying simple , straightforward logic regarding the relative importance of the terms.........to the UK MARKET!!

This "valuation" of domains is a "mysterious" business to say the least.
In over 50 years of business , I have always reckoned that the ONLY man who sets the price of ANYTHING in an auction ....is the RUNNER-UP.....not any valuer. So , HOW are valuers on this forum arriving at their estimates?
What is it? Guesswork or expertise? If a man is prepared to PAY for any commodity , no outsider is going to guess the value. Only the man himself......the buyer.... truly knows.

I believe that the New Zealand Government paid 5 MILLION DOLLARS for Newzealand.com , when they bought it from Virtual Countries.com , a few years ago. Would anyone on this forum have valued it at that?

Of course, since that domain is rarer than a Van Gogh, and a tourist going for a month to New Zealand is going to spend about 5000 American Dollars,within the NZ economy, it follows that NewZealand.com only has to bring in TWO EXTRA jumbo jets, with 500 passengers each, into the country, for the NZ economy to recoup 5 million dollars.
So in truth, newzealand.com ......at 5 million dollars... may well have paid for itself within 6 months.....by EARNING it for the country via the internet.
What is tourism worth ,per annum , to New Zealand? Wales apparently earns about TWO BILLION POUNDS PER YEAR from tourism.

 

[woopwoop]

Thread split now - comments don't apply now

 

[domainking]

You guys reckon that the names of small towns like Coatbridge are worth over £3000. Therefore can you please tell me what visitunitedkingdom.co.uk is worth ......when it CONTAINS little places like England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland, London, Yorkshire, Manchester, Cardiff, Kent, Leeds, Liverpool , Edinburgh , Birmingham, Sheffield etc etc.
They are SLIGHTLY more important than Runcorn and Coatbridge......so what is my domain worth , please?
coatbridge worth over £3000 to the right buyer typical buyer would be the local rag or local person who knows the area and value to the name or other geo domainer
By the way, I also have visitsheffield.com !!

visitunitedkingdom.co.uk
not worth much maybe worth the reg fee

 

[rob]

I don't understand this. One man [ Julian] on this forum gives his opinion. Then when I reply,another man[ Grey wing] replies instead of Julian. Why does one person speak on another's behalf?

I would spend time reading other threads to understand how forums work online.

What criteria is Julian using to evaluate Visit domains? How can visitunitedkingdom.co.uk be "useless" when visitbritain.co.uk is being used alongside the .com version to market the whole of Britain? The latter domain, after MILLIONS have been spent on marketing it ....is now WORTH MILLIONS!! The marketing around THE BRAND has made it worth millions.

By that logic your name has had little spent on it and thus worth little?

This "valuation" of domains is a "mysterious" business to say the least.
In over 50 years of business , I have always reckoned that the ONLY man who sets the price of ANYTHING in an auction ....is the RUNNER-UP.....not any valuer. So , HOW are valuers on this forum arriving at their estimates?
What is it? Guesswork or expertise? If a man is prepared to PAY for any commodity , no outsider is going to guess the value. Only the man himself......the buyer.... truly knows.

If you search this forum there are many debates on valuations. Why do you compare this to an auction I do not know.

As with most things there is a 'going rate' , but obviously people overpay and get bargains along side.

I believe that the New Zealand Government paid 5 MILLION DOLLARS for Newzealand.com , when they bought it from Virtual Countries.com , a few years ago. Would anyone on this forum have valued it at that?

Probably yeah.

Regarding the name, I would prefer to have VisitUK.co.uk as it is less clunky but thats just me

 

[Edwin]

Surely VisitTheUnitedKingdom.co.uk or VisitTheUK.co.uk makes more grammatical sense?

 

[binny]

visitUK.com and .co.uk would seem more likely to fit the search terms for me so wouldn't think its ideal for SEO and less appealing to domainers so low reseller value.

visitBritain.com and .co.uk are being used by your prospective end-user buyers, they should have no reason to buy others so low end-user sale potential.

Low value for me, probably ££ if your luck is in.

 

[Redkite]

Rob,
It is that is being illogical here. Sure, I said that visitbritain.com had a lot of money spent on it, making it worth millions because of the investment in marketing !! But that MEANS.......that they will NEVER CHANGE THE BRAND!!
Too much money and time invested in THE BRAND !!

[It is nonsense to say that visitunitedkingdom.co.uk does not have a value
WHEN IT IS THE NAME OF THIS COUNTRY.....and can market ANYTHING within the country! ]

Therefore ,the VISIT FORMAT must be good. MOST tourism domains use the "visit" format !!
As a Welshman, you know that Wales no longer has Wales Tourist board.....it has VISIT WALES as the official tourism body, marketing under visitwales.com and visitwales.co.uk. The words "VISIT WALES" are in the media all the time.

Well, I have owned visit-wales.co.uk for years and built a site around it!!

It is the same words!! The hyphen is good as far as I am concerned.It clarifies words and separates them, making them easier to read on a hoarding, say.
The fact that visit-dubai.co.uk is hyphenated does not hold it back in a Google search. It is TOP if you enter visit dubai into Google UK.

Another thing. It was said that Paignton.com made £5000.
Well I sold visittorbay.co.uk to THE SAME PERSON . I admit I did not get £5000, but he tells me he paid extra for paignton.com to complete the "set".

 

[stevef1fan]

Hi Redkite.

The grammar isn't quite right though.

I wouldn't say 'I'd love to visit United Kingdom.'

I wouldn't say 'I'd love to visit United States.'

- therefore, the domain lacks flow, surely this effects it's market value. Just an observation, that's all. I'm sure you already know that, so I don't mean to patronise you.

Good luck !

Cheers,

Steve.

 

[Rob_F]

I love "Visit" as a prefix but in this case, as others have pointed out, is just doesn't work.

You'd struggle to get over two figures for it here, imo

- Rob

 

[Edwin]

This is a classic mistake. If you're going to ask for appraisals, accept that they are other peoples' OPINIONS of your domain name. There's absolutely no need - no point, even - in spending a lot of time and energy arguing that they're wrong. That doesn't mean that you have to take any notice of the appraisals - do what you like - but the more you argue, the less anyone's going to feel like contributing to one of your appraisal request threads the next time around...

 

[Redkite]

Binny,
You like visituk.co.uk ?
Well I have got visit-uk.co.uk and visit-uk.net , as well, if anyone is interested.
What do you say NOW?

Listen! The name of this COUNTRY is United Kingdom , abbreviated to UK, so anyone who says that these two names , preceded by the VISIT used by almost all important OFFICIAL tourism sites AND COUNTRIES , are NOT OF VALUE.....must be totally lacking in entrepreneurial imagination.

Do you realise the IMPORTANCE Of "UNITED KINGDOM" AS A NAME??

It is not Moreton-on-the-Marsh.......or Coatbridge..... or Preston....or Dunstable.....IT IS THE NAME OF A LEADING COUNTRY........with 60 MILLION POPULATION........and all you guys are doing is NITPICKING!!

Like all domain sites, many of the domains on display are absolute TRASH. All sorts of rubbish non-entities are being bandied about, like some corny Sun headlines !!

Please do not tell me that visitunitedkingdom.co.uk is rubbish, when Flanders in Belgium can use visitflanders.co.uk to GET TO THE BRITISH MARKET ON GOOGLE UK and California travel and tourism bought visitcalifornia.co.uk FROM ME to match their existing visitcalifornia.com....TO CAPTURE THE BRITISH MARKET AGAIN......ON GOOGLE UK !!

Some of you people do not understand the RELEVANCE of important phrases!
Why would a SPECIFIC visitunitedkingdom.co.uk be LESS important than some of the CORNY OBSCURE TERMS being sold as "domains" by many domainers ?
Visitunitedkingdom.co.uk tells you EXACTLY what it is for.......to VISIT A MARKET OF 60 MILLION IN A LEADING EUROPEAN/WORLD NATION ........not 30,000 in some small town!!
Be realistic!!

 

[Rob_F]

Yep, we are ALL wrong and you must be RIGHT!!!

Honestly, not sure why you even bothered to ask for other people's opinions – you obviously know it all.

- Rob

 

[dashu1]

What about visitEarth - that covers the UK, Europe, AND California.

 

[Redkite]

Good grief !
So we're into pedantry and semantic pettiness on this forum now!!

If you want ....visittheunitedkingdom.co.uk or .com .........I have those two as well !!

If you want to argue with those.......I have visit-greatbritain.com !!
Heard of Great Britain ??

There again...some domainers will probably think that pickUnose.co.uk ; and scratchascab.com are more important than SPECIFIC DOMAINS referring to this country !!

You guys must be VERY rich and successful and know ALL ABOUT DOMAINS.

Me? I'm just a fella with 700 domains and web-sites....... plus a successful tourist attraction , plus a 340 acre farm !!

What the f*** do I know compared to all you expert wealthy entrepreneurs??