what are the benefits of becoming a TAG holder?

developdomains · Sep 27, 2006

hi all

I am thinking about becoming a Nominet member/TAG holder, but what are the real benefits?

I read on Nominets website that you reg names for £5+ VAT, but I already pay £5.93, less if I bulk buy.

Is there really any point to joining?

cheers
Justin

static · Sep 27, 2006

Speed of registration is the critical benefit, with DAC monitoring.

retired member 1 · Sep 27, 2006

Other than dropcatching, security is also a bonus...if you hold lots of domains the safest place for them is on your own tag rather than in a registars account which is password protected only.

I wouldn't say it's worth getting one unless you hold lots of domains and tend to register lots on a monthly basis.

tifosi · Sep 27, 2006

member and tag holder are different, though to be a member you will have a tag(s).

Members get voting rights, access to the dac, and discounted registration fee (£5+vat).

Tag holders still have to pay normal registration fees... £80+vat.

There's other threads here on this issue.

S

aqls · Sep 27, 2006

From a practical perspective definitely not worth it, even for dropcatching as that's pretty well sewn up by some clever people.

Managing domains under your tag needs all sorts of programming and software and setting up of secure emails etc. All a PIA.

Voting rights means nothing too as all power is in people who don't even hold the domains (registrars).

All a bit fubar at the moment.

JMO.

-aqls-

ps - but you can use their logo on your website if you're a member.

fred · Sep 27, 2006

aqls said:
Voting rights means nothing too as all power is in people who don't even hold the domains (registrars).

Maybe, but if you get a membership/tag and move your domains to that, you get to vote, and they lose some votes, so the power does start to shift!

developdomains · Sep 27, 2006

thanks for the replies guys. just one question (pls excuse if I sound dumb!) but if I get my own TAG, then i can still host my domains with my current host can't I?

Just checking!

fred · Sep 27, 2006

yes <filler text>

retired_member16 · Sep 30, 2006

aqls said:
From a practical perspective definitely not worth it, even for dropcatching as that's pretty well sewn up by some clever people..

Nonsense. There are plenty of worthwhile domains available to catch that are not targetted by the big fish.

aqls said:
Managing domains under your tag needs all sorts of programming and software and setting up of secure emails etc. All a PIA.

Rubbish. A simple database will be enough for most people to keep track.

aqls said:
Voting rights means nothing too as all power is in people who don't even hold the domains (registrars).

True

Firestars - new tag holder and script writer. :???:

aqls · Oct 2, 2006

firestars said:
Rubbish. A simple database will be enough for most people to keep track.

Oh? Clever database that one, communicates automatically by pgp encrypted email and manages it's own nameservers.

Bollocks.

-aqls-

retired_member16 · Oct 2, 2006

aqls said:
Oh? Clever database that one, communicates automatically by pgp encrypted email and manages it's own nameservers.

Bollocks.

-aqls-

?? You confuse me. You stated

aqls said:
"Managing domains under your tag needs all sorts of programming and software and setting up of secure emails etc. All a PIA.

So, keeping domains on your Tag and being alerted when they are up for renewal to remind you to send off a renewal request is hard work?

Im not sure why are stating its 'clever'

Managing domains, including renewing seems like a piece of piss to me.

aqls · Oct 2, 2006

Let me know how your database sends a change of address request, a change of tag request, a change of nameserver request, a page forwarding request to a parking company, anything like that.

The sort of management software that many registrars have developed to make it easier for you to manage your domains.

"piece of piss" - you must be a clever man.

it is all doable (done and dusted for me) but it was not simple and straightforward.

Just setting up the pgp took me a couple of days.

-aqls-

retired member 1 · Oct 2, 2006

aqls said:
Let me know how your database sends a change of address request, a change of tag request, a change of nameserver request, a page forwarding request to a parking company, anything like that.

The sort of management software that many registrars have developed to make it easier for you to manage your domains.

"piece of piss" - you must be a clever man.

it is all doable (done and dusted for me) but it was not simple and straightforward.

Just setting up the pgp took me a couple of days.

-aqls-

Agreed, Nominet don't give you any tools as such to manage your domains, so to change things like the nameservers, tag change, deletion and all the other various lovely things the automaton does you have to script all of those yourself..suppose the only other option would be to manually email the request everytime but i'm sure that would get tiresome after the first day or so.

Of course there are "off the shelf" 3rd party solutions for this such as tagadmin.

retired_member16 · Oct 2, 2006

aqls said:
Let me know how your database sends a change of address request, a change of tag request, a change of nameserver request, a page forwarding request to a parking company, anything like that.

The sort of management software that many registrars have developed to make it easier for you to manage your domains.

"piece of piss" - you must be a clever man.

it is all doable (done and dusted for me) but it was not simple and straightforward.

Just setting up the pgp took me a couple of days.

-aqls-

At no point did your email say anything about this being automated. I suggest you reread before posting.

retired member 1 · Oct 2, 2006

firestars said:
At no point did your email say anything about this being automated. I suggest you reread before posting.

Originally Posted by aqls
"Managing domains under your tag needs all sorts of programming and software and setting up of secure emails etc. All a PIA.

I read that as using the automaton...the secure email bit gave it away...easy enough mistake to make

aqls · Oct 2, 2006

firestars said:
At no point did your email say anything about this being automated. I suggest you reread before posting.

My email didn't say anything.

My post was comparing having a tag to using a good registrar.

It is much easier to use a good registrar. End of.

I haven't tried TagAdmin - thanks for the heads up.

-aqls-