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I was under the impression that if you were registered at companies house, it gave you *some* rights. Seems I stand corrected, my apologies @mojoco and thanks for the information.
I understand and appreciate your perspective. But It actually helps me a lot, especially if it came to mounting a defense (should the need arise), as it highlights and records my intentions which would be important in a DRS or Trademark case.I hate writing this as I really enjoy the general openness of this forum. BUT....if you are worried about being challenged by a third party on a domain name that you've purchased, then putting your full and frank thoughts/concerns on the subject on a relatively easy to find and join forum is not necessarily a good idea in my opinion. It weakens your position, whatever that might be.
I agree with you - i think that it adds value to talk about things - and others can learn as they go. It is an interesting topic (a bit like the difference between .uk & .co.uk) - also very contentious!I understand and appreciate your perspective. But It actually helps me a lot, especially if it came to mounting a defense (should the need arise), as it highlights and records my intentions which would be important in a DRS or Trademark case.
The example of TheCloud is more hypothetical and educational as I have no intention of developing it any time soon and also have plenty of alternative options for the project in mind, when the time comes.
The answers people have given have expanded my knowledge on the subject and I have no problem being open. If anything negative comes of it, then such as life, I've not robbed a bank or anything.
But if this is the sort of post that is not really welcome here or unhelpful to others, due maybe to others not wanting to highlight the issue for fear of affecting their own sales or ongoing auctions or something then I'm happy to have this post/thread removed if that's what people want.
Terms like iCloud might have a case as it is widely known to be an Apple service. The domain icloud.co.uk is being used by another business
As Shelley Title of same 1818s as a Metaphor for the unending cycle of nature... nowt they could do.....Don't mean it makes it easy to sell but as far as DRS went unless you did something as dumb like trying to pass it off as another company you,d not loose it at allI've had a few trademark issues before but nothing similar to this and I was wondering if anybody had any positive advice Or am I screwed ??? The domain is TheCloud(dot)uk
I don't think you read all my comments or certainly not understand them. I was after a bit of free input from others on their experiences, plus also laying a paper-trail for any future legal defense as it highlights my intentions etc. But hey, i guess you didn't read those bits!you will find many (generic) terms to be trademarked (or in use) somewhere, if you are worried about these kind of things you are not for the domaining business i guess, we have had over 10 wipo's and we already have 2 DRS on .uk's from the ror. disputes and claims come hand in hand with domaining (for a living).
Not necessarilyAs Shelley Title of same 1818s as a Metaphor for the unending cycle of nature... nowt they could do.....Don't mean it makes it easy to sell but as far as DRS went unless you did something as dumb like trying to pass it off as another company you,d not loose it at all
My understanding is that it is not necessarily dependent on me attempting to 'Pass Off' but also on "if there is a likelihood of confusion over who owns and operates the domain name". The domain does not need to be developed or active to fall foul of a DRS, it would appear. I'm currently reading through past DRS decisions and it seems that all is not so black and white.As Shelley Title of same 1818s as a Metaphor for the unending cycle of nature... nowt they could do.....Don't mean it makes it easy to sell but as far as DRS went unless you did something as dumb like trying to pass it off as another company you,d not loose it at all
I completely disagree with you. Disputes and claims do not come hand-in-hand with domaining in my experience, they are either unfortunate and accidental or the result of being sloppy or not caring.you will find many (generic) terms to be trademarked (or in use) somewhere, if you are worried about these kind of things you are not for the domaining business i guess, we have had over 10 wipo's and we already have 2 DRS on .uk's from the ror. disputes and claims come hand in hand with domaining (for a living).
Disputes and claims do not come hand-in-hand with domaining in my experience.
Sure Murray, Scale is definitely a factor, the more you have the more likely you are to step on somebodies toes. But, I think the main factor is using common sense and doing a bit of homework first and that usually is sufficient to avoid conflicts. But yes if you got thousands then your more likely. However, at one point I had over 9,000 .co.uk domains and only attracted 3 complaints ( about 15yr ago), that were the result of my lack of knowledge early in the game. Since then, things have been pretty stress free. However, I have now refined my portfolio down to a more manageable 500, but I get the point your making.Probably depends on scale
If you only have 100 domains you're less likely to get a DRS vs someone with 10,000, even if they're the same type of mix of names