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  1. webber

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    While I understand UKBO is a private backorder service and not a public auction site, it's still a shame to loose access to that data @sigh
     
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  3. sigh

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    This wasn't intentional. Just saw the post now.
     
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  4. seemly

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    Just for clarity, I had message Rob yesterday asking if this change was intentional.
    I never expect anything from anyone, including their time, so I did say that if he didn't respond I will assume it was intentional, and thank you for the sales data up until this point.

    Rob has been super kind and fixed the feed almost instantly, of which I am really appreciative. Thank you, @sigh.

    UKBO sales data reinstated!
     
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  5. seemly

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    Latest Update: Search Term Wildcards

    For those that don't know, this means that you can now search for domains that start or end with specific keyword terms (ignoring extension).

    For example:
    1. Starts with: casino%
    2. Ends with: %casino
    The current default behaviour is "%casino%" (known as contains), so the above examples provide quite a bit more control on search queries.
    If you want an exact match, you would include the domain extension as part of your search term.

    Top 10 UK domain sales ending with casino


    Coming Up:
    I am currently working on some functionality to display live Domainlore and Flip auctions, whether they have been sold before and the ability to view more details or related domain name sales.
     
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  6. seemly

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    Latest Update: Live UK Domain Auctions with prior sales history

    I've added a new panel to the home page that displays current live domain auctions that have previous sales history.

    Currently it only supports Domainlore, but I have requested some kind of feed access on Flip.

    Data displayed is pretty much raw from the RSS feed right now. I will probably tidy it up and make it more user friendly in the coming days, but it's quite nice to have quick visibility of this kind of info.

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  7. lazarus

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    Sure, Leave it with me!

    Cheers
     
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  8. seemly

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    Latest Update: Redirecting seemly.co.uk sales history

    With the launch of domainsaleshistory.uk back in November 2020, I decided now is the time to redirect all domain sales related traffic to the new app.

    Anything that previously pointed at domain sales related pages should be redirected, and maintain search related queries seamlessly.
    If you are aware of any redirects not working correctly please let me know.

    I still have future plans and improvements, but I feel the new app is in a better position and provides greater benefits to users than seemly.co.uk did.

    Bulk Whois
    The bulk whois functionality found on seemly.co.uk has been removed, and the URL redirects to the new app.
    Bulk whois facility does exist on the new app but requires user account signup/login to prevent abuse.

    Domain Sale Trends
    You may be aware of the trends feature on seemly.co.uk, which basically showed a bunch of sales data in graphs. This feature has not yet been replaced as I don't know how useful/interesting people found it, so it's not deemed a priority.
     
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  9. webber

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    I found myself using your Bulk Whois quite a bit, maybe daily.
    The sorting by column there only works for the Domain column and not for the dates or Tag, which are probably the most useful ones.
    Also results per page (everywhere else) would be so nice :D
    Sorry to sound like a broken record...
     
  10. seemly

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    Awesome! I'm glad to hear it's useful!

    Hmm... After a little investigation, I found and fixed a javascript error. This should work correctly now... (famous last words).

    Let me know if you still experience any issues, and send me a screenshot with a sample list of domains that I can replicate the issue with.

    Results per page - meaning increase the row count per page when using the search functionality?

    What would you deem to be a reasonable number of rows?
     
  11. webber

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    Aha, this is a Kinder egg of a bug report: inside my initial report actually lies another bug.
    My domains (example) fail to be correctly interpreted and displayed in the bulk whois results table and that's what breaks the sorting. Similar thing happened with another tag before:
    Yes, exactly.
    Ideally a dropdown select box to choose the preferred value (10, 50, 100). Most people would probably be happy with the default 10 results / page, but I prefer them in a long continuous list.
     
  12. seemly

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    Ahh... non-standardised data is always a ball ache. I've tried to implement something that is a little more forgiving. It's difficult to cater for edge-cases with this sort of scenario, and I'm certain more issue will arise in future.
    Let me know if you do have any more issues (and send examples - via DM if preferred).

    In all honesty, this isn't all that likely to happen very soon. It is already on the to-do list, but I have moved on to other projects that will hopefully start generating some income for the work output.

    The initial thought process behind the existing limit of 10 is that I wanted any kind of access to configurable settings like that to be for paying subscribers.
    In order for me to implement any kind of billing system it needs to be worth my time:
    1. I'm pretty certain that very few people would be happy to pay for a monthly or annual subscription, which unfortunately means it's not worth my while.
    2. If I were to implement a subscription I would feel more pressure to spend family time on the project, taking away the "fun" for me.
    I will keep it in mind though when I come round to do the next chunk of work on the app. I've no idea when that will be, though (probably when you find more bugs :D)
     
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  13. seemly

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    Latest Update: User Account Verification

    A few weeks ago I noticed a spike in abusive signups, so I actually disabled the ability to create new accounts.

    I just released an update that requires users to verify their email address when registering for an account.

    For existing users the next time you log in and/or attempt to access your account you will see the following screen. You will need to click the link in the email you receive in order to verify and access your account.

    Screenshot 2021-06-06 at 17.21.25.png
     
  14. seemly

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    No updates to announce really, other than the Cloudflare firewall I configured a few weeks back seems to be working well at preventing abusive signups.

    I also wanted to highlight some fairly impressive stats from the app:
    • 24,272 sales have now been recorded.
    • There have been 16,483 sales queries.
    • 116,138 bulk whois queries.
    I'd like to highlight that all query related stats are completely anonymised. It's only there to count query executions, and ensure the features are working as expected.

    I'm quite excited to be so close to 25k sales records. I know there are quite a number of sales records missing that can be found on dnjournal.com, but it's really hard to scrape non-standardised, and broken HTML.

    This doesn't include any inherited queries from when it was hosted on seemly.co.uk, so I'm quite pleased to be able to see numbers like that.
     
  15. webber

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    Impressive numbers – proves how useful this is!
    When will we be able to upload our own sales?
     
  16. sigh

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    Send me links to the pages and I'll see if I can put something together.
     
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  17. seemly

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    Thanks Rob! That would be super useful!

    I have already downloaded the archives locally, so I will filter through and try to extract a list of absolute URLs to see what you can come up with.

    The problem seems to be that each report has custom HTML structure, with no consistent nesting of DOM or html attributes.
     
  18. seemly

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    That shouldn't be too time consuming to implement. The issues I foresee will be moderating, verifying, and approving the submissions.

    This will primarily be a manual task initially, which could then lead to adding functionality for trusted members to help verify/flag submitted results, but this then starts to take extra planning and time for development.

    Is this a feature that should be prioritised?

    (clear your inbox, or PM me)
     
  19. webber

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    Definitely not a priority.
    But would help to have a standardised way of submitting sales (there is a section in this forum, but sometimes it's nice to remain anonymous)
    If a "trusted seller" system can be implemented so those can upload their sales directly, then even better/less hassle for you.
     
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  20. seemly

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    Latest Update: Option to increase search results limit

    Top 100 UK domain name sales (only signed-in users will see 100 results).

    This is one of the features that @webber had previously asked for.

    This option is only available/visible to signed-in users. No real reason other than I feel that there should be benefits to having an account, and currently this is one of the only benefits (along with bulk whois).

    I am currently in the process of creating a blog which I plan to do regular sales reports (monthly?), stats & informational posts, and any UK domain related news that might be of interest.
     
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  21. seemly

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    Latest Update: UK Domain Sales History Blog

    I have also started a blog specific to UK domain sales, and the app.

    https://blog.domainsaleshistory.uk/

    It's obviously super light in content at the moment, but I will be adding to it at least once every month for monthly sales reports, but I also plan to add posts around subjects including:
    1. top x domain sales in {year}
    2. top x domain sales
    3. latest domain sales
    4. best value domain sales
    5. domains with most sales and their accumulated price
    6. app roadmap and feature updates
    7. interactive "games"
    The first sales report has been added and can be read here:
    https://blog.domainsaleshistory.uk/sales-report/uk-domain-sales-report-june-2021/

    I'm sure there's plenty of feedback, but please be gentle! :D
     
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