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Discussion in 'Nominet General Information' started by retired_member6, Jun 17, 2006.

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  1. retired_member6

    retired_member6 Banned

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    Here's one person nominet can possibly watch for possibly ****** whois or others who supply drop lists can do better to protect against.

    the bro adca stem ailco rpor ation * com

    Registrant:
    Schmitt, John
    35450 Yermo Road
    Yermo, CA 92398
    US

    Administrative Contact, Technical Contact:
    Schmitt, John JohnSchmitt2000@hotmail.com
    35450 Yermo Road
    Yermo, CA 92398
    US
    7602541154

    SpAwwER
     
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  3. Ellis United Kingdom

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    I doubt this is the real culptit

    Spamming is highly illegal now in the US punishable by jail.

    It's possible, either this guy doesn't exist, or that his IP has been hacked.

    There's an article on Out-Law about a woman in CA who was jailed over the same kind of this earlier this year.

    I'll post the article when I've found it. :)
     
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    retired_member6 Banned

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    Well it's that web address or similar in every email of every recent domain I've bought in the last few months, every month. The thing these companies could probably claim is that the previous owner signed up to the service. Note the new reg of the domain also, and it's similar to some addresses over the past couple of years so one suspects they move a round a bit.

    A bit like the barclays and bank spam we all get, they never go away, the addresses simply change. I'm being spammed on several other domains at the moment as well which aint a coincidence, they get these dropped domain lists from somewhere and I fully admit that sites like deleting can't prevent spammers from nicking catch info.

    It would be interesting to have a spam watch on here and see if we all get the same spam, then perhaps we can track these buggers down and put them in prison or at least get ourselves £200 quids worth of domains each and every time we sue...

    I also wonder how many of those spam lists on ebay that ebay allow to be sold are genuine, perhaps if we occasionally bought a list or two we could force ebay into sorting that out as well. Someone could probably get a good income by simply selling on deleted & caught lists.
     
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    Here's the latest

    On three different domains I have purchased this year.

    Is there a department at Nominet which caters for spam and trying to shut down the people who sell on whois lists, who I can forward, who we can all forward our spam and headers to?

    Be careful with replying to remove requests, often they're set up as acceptances and you'll be sent hundreds more spam emails.
     
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  6. Jac

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    Were these new registrations or previously owned domain names? Spam is often a legacy left over from previous usage of a domain name.

    I doubt there is any real correlation between the whois and spam. Spammers tend to send literally billions of spam to whoever and whatever; and very often work on dictionary attacks ... i.e. anything from a to z before the @ sign... which is why it's never a good idea to use catch-all accounts.

    In my opinion, you should never send any form of acknowledgement to spam (including unsubscribe requests). The spam industry is geared to trying to establish LIVE email addresses and you will in all probability get added to their affiliate lists.

    The other thing I'd suggest is that this is not really a Nominet problem nor is it inspired by the creation of domain names. It is the spammers who are at fault and they don't differentiate between .uk domains and .com or .tv. They have even been known to initiate DOS attacks on people who try to stop them sending their messages. It's like the old saying goes, the law only applies to the law abiding. Spammers don't care about the law; they just care about being caught breaking it; so they look for ways around getting caught. Get Spam Assassin and pass the ammunition! ;)

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    James Conaghan
     
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    It just seems odd how almost every domain I pick up receives spam by the same people and they're not crawling my domain site as these latest domains aren't even on there, they're using names of the previous people who held the domains, quite what the whois was I don't know - one is spot on.

    It's an amazing coincidence if they're not using whois lists and registrant info, that I happen to pick up three domains from three seperate registrants in three different sectors in three seperate months and I get spammed on the same day.

    Not using whois info? I'd be very surprised if they wasn't. And I'm not claiming nominet nor saying it's their responsibility but I would have thought nominet would be interested in all evidence of use of spammers illegally using their database. No? Perhaps I misunderstood then.

    I thought for a while that they could be crawling sedo and I'm sure some spammers are simply lifting newly added domains and spamming but spamming a domainer makes no sense... but how did this one get people's names right? amazing coincidences.
     
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    I get spam from broad c as t etc on a non dropped domain.

    I don't think they're too fussy about which registration method the domain was registered by.

    -aqls-
     
  9. Jac

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    Just to clarify; Nominet does indeed keep an eye on data mining. This is a case from not so long ago. See here.

    Regards
    James Conaghan
     
  10. Jay Daley New Zealand

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    Not sure I understand what we would do with it. Can you explain a bit more?
     
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