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  1. Retired_Member39

    Retired_Member39 Retired Member

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    Yes i did read up, your post a while ago summoned it up pretty well without over complicating things. So basically every caught co.uk will now lose the right to .uk from now onwards if there is a org.uk pre reg'd (from memory cut off date is 31st October) ?.
     
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  3. Edwin

    Edwin Well-Known Member Exclusive Member

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    No.

    The rights to the .uk depend on the situation as it was on 28 October 2013.

    If the .co.uk had the rights to the .uk on that date (all it had to do was exist to have the rights) then it will keep the rights forever. They will not pass to the .org.uk or to any other extension.

    In other words, so long as it had the rights, it can be deleted and re-regged a thousand times between now and launch day and it will keep the rights.

    On the other hands, if the .org.uk had the rights on 28 October 2013, then catching the .co.uk won't give you those rights (though in practice for a .co.uk to be dropping today, it must have been registered on 28 October 2013 so this will never happen)

    The only question which Nominet have to clarify is whether a "suspended" .co.uk domain can get the rights to the .uk. In other words, if the .co.uk was registered-but-expired on 28 October 2013, did it acquire the rights to the .uk?

    My instinct is "yes" since Nominet's V3 is very pro-.co.uk, but I'd like to see confirmation from them before being 100% sure on that point.

    A .org.uk (or other non-.co.uk extension) can NEVER gain the rights to .uk if it didn't already have them on 28 October 2013. It can only lose those rights, or keep them if it had them, but never gain them, no matter what the circumstances surrounding other competing domains.
     
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    Ok thanks, i got the impression many caught co.uk domains from now on could lose out. I will digest this in the morning and re-read thread, i guess its still a case of waiting for the dust to settle.
     
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    It means that, along with Denys losing his magic touch (for how long, who knows), catching .co.uk domains suddenly got a whole lot sweeter.
     
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    And catching .org.uk domains got even more pointless than before...
     
  7. diablo

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    Your best bet is to read through Nominet's FAQ

    http://www.nominet.org.uk/how-participate/policy-development/IntroducingSecondLevelDomains/qanda

    It specifically addresses the issue of dropped domain names:

    Q What happens if a contested .org.uk and a .co.uk exist on the 28th of October (so the .co.uk gets the right to the .uk), but between then and the launch the .co.uk drops and is registered by someone else – who gets the right to the .uk?

    A The new .co.uk registrant gets the right to the .uk.
     
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    Stephen Well-Known Member

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    expanded a bit

    The answer should be expanded a bit along the following lines;

    A. The new .co.uk registrant gets the right to the .uk and the right gets transferred with the domain if that .co.uk gets resold anytime in the next 5 years until the right is exercised.

    So it is clear the right is with the domain until exercised not the registrant who first registered it.
     
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