whats the technique...?

[dapper]

hi all, im new to the dropping game, however seen that all the domains that expire are listed on

http://www.odditysoftware.com

my question is, if I see a domain that is going to expire tomorrow, what can I do to buy the domain before any one else, are they available from say midnight?

Also I use ukwebsolutionsdirect.co.uk to buy domains, will they have the information on the domain up to date as soon as its live?

Any help would be great....

 

[aqls]

All the information you want is on this forum.

Seek and you shall find. . .

Though this forum is mainly .co.uk and oddity does the .com, .net etc

domain will usually drop at a fixed time after end of registration.

You then just register it if noone else wants it, or if it's a good name then you need to either buy a 'dropcatching' slot from say netserve (talk themselves up alot) or dropcatcher (someone is selling slots from them on the forum right now) and compete with everyone else to try and get it.

If you want to take it up as a business, you'll have to write some pretty decent software.

good luck

-aqls-

 

[charlie]

.coms etc you'll probably be best off registering your interest with one of the recomendations here:

http://www.acorndomains.co.uk/drop-...ood-catching-com.html?highlight=.com+catching

competition for good names will be fierce so have your wallet open and full!

 

[dapper]

ok read a little more and it seems to be on the ball with this game, you need to be able to register the domain as soon as it get dropped from the canellation state right?

http://www.freelancers.net/freelance-projects/200604/9601.html

Is there anyway to buy a script to go and purchase the domain that you are eyeing up?

I dont get what people say about buying slots?

 

[aqls]

keep reading!

dropcatcher is someone (as are many software geniuses (genii?) on this board) with such a script/system.

They sell you the opportunity at huge cost - e.g. £30 or something - to input the domain name you want into their system and try to catch it before someone else does the moment it becomes available to reregister.

netserve have a new system that they're just testing out and keep telling us they are the best (and then eating their hat) (or something!).

If they miss, well, try another domain . . .

If the domain you are after is a top one then none of these third party services would probably be any good for you.

There was someone selling useage of a top class script at £1000 per month on this board earlier, and someone else selling a script for £2000.

In other words, if you want to get serious you need alot of time and/or money on your hands.

-aqls-

 

[seanc]

deleting.co.uk is a good place to start

 

[netserve]

netserve have a new system that they're just testing out and keep telling us they are the best (and then eating their hat) (or something!).

TUT TUT, never said it's the best system, it's not bad

(Oh, and I'll always eat humble pie, or my hat, whichever is nearer when I'm wrong.)

 

[dapper]

well ive already checked out deleting and seen a prenom that I have my eye on.

I just got of the phone with someone at Nominet who was very helpfull indeed.

Is it right that the general feeling is that the guy at nominet drop these domains once a month only?
generally 2 months after it goes into Suspense?

Also with these scripts, do you set them up to actually register the domain with your own TAG? sureley you must be a webhost to get a TAG?

Or can I do it with my webseller's tag then talk to them?

 

[dapper]

also why are these prenoms so valuable, are they easier to market?

 

[netserve]

Most of the catchers have their own tag and either run their own catching software or outsource the catching software to someone else.

There's a fair few here that just buy a 'slot' with a catcher ie ask a catcher to send the registration request on their tag and use their system to get the domain.

In the main, the prenoms are valuable because most of them are good quality generic names but that rule doesn't always apply.

Your current registration provider may have a catching system but in the main you'll find a lot of dropped domains will be caught by people who are from this board.

 

[seanc]

well ive already checked out deleting and seen a prenom that I have my eye on.

forget about it, i doubt you'll catch a prenom, and i doubt anyone
will book a slot for you for a prenom

 

[dapper]

what im a little worried about is that I do not mind paying upto 200 for a slot to try and catch this domain Ive got my eye on, however how do i know that the catcher will not only take my 200 quid and also my domain?

who is the best catcher in here and who is the most trustworthy

 

[aqls]

A good prenom will be worth £15k upwards. Your £200 looks a little cheap don't you think?

As a general rule, if a catcher says they'll try for you, they will. However, if they say something ruder, and they do, then take it personally!

-aqls-

 

[grantw]

what im a little worried about is that I do not mind paying upto 200 for a slot to try and catch this domain Ive got my eye on, however how do i know that the catcher will not only take my 200 quid and also my domain?

who is the best catcher in here and who is the most trustworthy

Noone sane is gonna be willing to try and catch a prenom for you for £200 - if its a good generic then you will really have to flash the cash - bear in mind that if one of the catchers on here caught the domain you are after for themselves then they would be selling it on at a premium price, so £200 isnt exactly appealing!

Grant

 

[FC Domains]

And there is a problem with the 'no win no fee'.

Because if somebody has asked a lot of catchers, they will be wasting there resources fighting eachother, while the person who booked the domain has the equivelent of multiple DAC accounts and only pays out once.

 

[dapper]

so what you saying is basically forget about it??
Which I can understand, o well ill have to try and contact the company that used to own the domain, im sure if I flash some cash there way they wont say no.....it will save me paying on of your guys triple the amount later on!!

 

[aqls]

That's a valid burnt earth strategy but will not gain you any favours.

Chances are that the registrant will change his/her mind on the domain and rereg it thereby losing you and everyone else any chance of getting it.

Also bear in mind that Nominet has already tried to contact these people so you will possibly have to search far to find them (but not necessarily).

You can become a dropcatcher fairly easily and rely on speculative domain requests which are as good as the best dropcatchers speeds, just you don't get very many of them.

-aqls-

 

[paul]

so what you saying is basically forget about it??
Which I can understand, o well ill have to try and contact the company that used to own the domain, im sure if I flash some cash there way they wont say no.....it will save me paying on of your guys triple the amount later on!!

No good contacting the company that used to own the domain

 

[dapper]

ok now im really interested in these scripts, this is my daily update as to what I think I need to do.....

when domain is available send the mail that will be PGP encrypted with your TAG.

I dont have a tag so I will need my domain host to do this for me, however I dont know how familiar he is with the 'urgentcy' of the matter. Ie is his online system on buying domains instant?

I could I suppose try and right the script and ask him to use it, do you think he will use it?

I know the daily limted of requests per 24 hours is 1000, so doest that mean:
1440 minutes per day, so with my rubbish maths, every 40 minutes your scripts can do a REQUEST or QUERY?

http://www.nic.uk/tag/auto/aup/

Any help from any one?
or should we carry on the talks offline,???

 

[Jeewhizz]

A dac allows upto 100k queries per day iirc