Will we find out how its working today ?

[dee]

So...allegedly find out day for how the drop will work isnt it ?

 

[RobM]

It's nominet - I wouldn't hold my breath for an exact date/time

 

[dee]

Yep . That's what I thought.... we live in hope though.

 

[timter51]

Anyone else wishing they had opted for the highest anticipated registrations bracket?

 

[dee]

Anyone else wishing they had opted for the highest anticipated registrations bracket?

mmm....yep....... single figure per MINUTE !!!

 

[atlas]

There is this -

https://registrars.nominet.uk/namespace/uk/uk-rights-registration

 

[ian]

Good old Nominet, taking care of their large clients first!

 

[RobM]

You can allocate money to increase your limit as far as I can tell. Still haven't really digested it but I assume the big registrar friends are going to get a huge allocation - still there may be some scraps for the rest of us I've asked for a list of the brackets to see if it's even worth setting up for. They won't tell me of course - they'll claim it's data protection blah blah. But so far I have seen 6,9,and 60 per minute.

 

[Murray]

I'm dumb with this kind of thing..

"Based on the number of registrations you’ve told us you intend to make during the release process,your allocation will be up to 9 registration attempts per minute"

I said 100-1000

"If you do not have sufficient credit or funds on account to register the volume of domains you have indicated, then your allocation will be reduced in line with what we can see you actually have the capacity to register."

So how much money would I need to put into my account? just the cost of 100x registrations? so the £500 credit limit cover that?

The next bracket is 1000+ registrations? I can't remember the tiers, so you would need to put £3750 into your account to get a higher than 9 registration attempts?

 

[ian]

Strange why they want money up front!

 

[davedevelopment]

> 6 registration attempts per minute

Wish I'd said more now! For some reason I actually thought it would be better to look like someone after a few particular names, then say I'm going after 100s, ah well.

I don't know how it's going to work, but If they're dumping a big batch every day at 2 o'clock, I'm going to have to think carefully about the 6 names I'd like to try and snatch

 

[RobM]

If they're 6 good names then registrars will likely be able to look it up 100 times for each 1 of yours.. ie you have little to no chance.

 

[davedevelopment]

If they're 6 good names then registrars will likely be able to look it up 100 times for each 1 of yours.. ie you have little to no chance.

Hence having to choose carefully. Given a 100 quality names in each batch, I bet the first 5-10 will get the bulk of everyone's first lot of quota, so I'll look for some middle hanging fruit.

 

[ian]

I don't get how Nominet feel this is a fair system! If domains all drop within seconds of 2pm each day, then how is 6, 9 etc registration attempts per minute going to catch anything; you'd literally fire all 9 creates at bang on 14:00:00, suffer from being too soon (because of server times, regardless if all synced to ntp) then miss everything before you can send creates again at 14:01:00!!!!

 

[RobM]

I don't think they ever said it would be a fair system. Like the introduction of the UK and the doubling of prices they've probably got nice new cars from the top registrars out of it Ah well really we knew it would be like this. I don't think I'm going to bother at all. At least it looks like they will allow tagholders to use webdomainmanager (sure that'll be fast) so people don't need bespoke software.

 

[Murray]

I'm dumb but I'm starting to understand, I think, I was reading it is requests per second for some reason

So you get 6 per minute, they have 100, so by the time you have to wait till 2:01 everything will be gone

 

[timter51]

I don't get how Nominet feel this is a fair system! If domains all drop within seconds of 2pm each day, then how is 6, 9 etc registration attempts per minute going to catch anything; you'd literally fire all 9 creates at bang on 14:00:00, suffer from being too soon (because of server times, regardless if all synced to ntp) then miss everything before you can send creates again at 14:01:00!!!!

The DAC is still in play isn't it? So we should at least know when a domain is available in the standard way?

 

[RobM]

In their FAQ they state 'For example, if the quota is 10 requests per rolling 60 seconds ....' - anyone know anyone who has more than 1 request per second? lol I think they need to be more specific because I'm confused as to what is actually limited - purchase EPP request or DAC lookups?!

 

[timter51]

In their FAQ they state 'For example, if the quota is 10 requests per rolling 60 seconds ....' - anyone know anyone who has more than 1 request per second? lol I think they need to be more specific because I'm confused as to what is actually limited - purchase EPP request or DAC lookups?!

I took it as EPP create requests, DAC limit is same as usual. Could be wrong!

 

[Murray]

oh! it says "We will refund any excess money on account after you have paid the invoices for the registrations you make during the release process"

So, if you have £100,000 spare, you can give them that, get more requests, they give it back anyway...?! so what's the point