Catch wanted 15th January 2014

[DaveP]

And so the race begins..!!!!!! Who will be there a nanosecond of it dropping? Place your bets now!!

 

[Rob_F]

So what's the domain?

popcorn

- Rob

 

[grantw]

There is something not straight about Nominet's records of the pop+corn.co.uk domain name, as it wasn't a Pre-Nom up to 6 years ago, but now it is.

You're right, the reg date is October 1996 but the pre-nom status should be for domains registered before August. There seems to be quite a few domains in the same state.

Grant

 

[anthony]

You're right, the reg date is October 1996 but the pre-nom status should be for domains registered before August. There seems to be quite a few domains in the same state.

Grant

I've just sent an email to Nominet to raise the issue, as I think it's actually a worrying matter that their Whois records are seemingly suffering from arbitrary modifications which simply shouldn't be happening.

 

[Skinner]

On the assumption they stuck to 2 yr renewals, to expire in 2013 wouldn't that make it a 1995 reg rather than 1996 ?

I haven't looked at the dac output but given its been said pre-nom dates are unknown the dac return could be wrong ?

 

[anthony]

On the assumption they stuck to 2 yr renewals, to expire in 2013 wouldn't that make it a 1995 reg rather than 1996 ?...

Originally the Whois said it was registered on 15 October 1996!

 

[ian]

Anyone fancy explaining what you guys are talking about, pre-nom?

 

[monaghan]

Anyone fancy explaining what you guys are talking about, pre-nom?

Pre-Nominet...

A very brief and probably not 100% accurate history - the UK domain space management was done more or less by a few academics in spare time, the domain space grew too large to manage so a not for profit company was setup to manage it - Nominet.

Domains registered before Nominet came into existence are lovingly referred to as pre-nom, these may or may not behave the same as other domains depending on the history of the individual domain.

 

[ian]

Thanks for that. In what way may they not behave the same? Don't want to end up finding it at auction to buying a dud!

 

[ratboy]

I remember a time when 10 of names at this level were dropping daily.

Ahhh the memories...

 

[DaveP]

I remember a time when 10 of names at this level were dropping daily.

Ahhh the memories...

Wish I was around then!

 

[anthony]

Don't forget the 92 versus 99 day drop groups they caused.

 

[monaghan]

Thanks for that. In what way may they not behave the same? Don't want to end up finding it at auction to buying a dud!

It's just the admin processes at Nominet that are different for pre-nom's, when it drops and is re-registered it will be just the same as any other domain. The main difference is that a pre-nom may not drop as expected, some do and some don't

 

[invincible]

Don't forget the 92 versus 99 day drop groups they caused.

That wasn't because of pre nom. 92 day drops were for post Nominet domain names that had been detagged. 99 day drops were for those that were on tags (they had an extra 7 days grace). The two were amalgamated some years ago, and I've forgotten exactly the reason for that although I have a general idea, and now they should all drop at 92 (unless it's out of sequence for a special reason or because Nominet took a day off for technical reasons).

 

[invincible]

It's just the admin processes at Nominet that are different for pre-nom's, when it drops and is re-registered it will be just the same as any other domain. The main difference is that a pre-nom may not drop as expected, some do and some don't

I'm not sure you're correct. All the prenoms that were retained by their original registrants were granted two years free from the date they were "converted" into post Nominet domain names. The remaining pre Nominet domain names were deleted in batches. Pre Nominet domain names didn't have a "registered on" date displayed in the WHOIS. There shouldn't be anymore of those domain names remaining.

 

[ratboy]

I remember when someone hand registered a name similar to this that had fallen under everyones radar

Just luck, and not had anything like that since :cry:

 

[ian]

Nice, double winner!

 

[ratboy]

Bit of a bitter sweet experience as well

For those that don't know, Ratboy registered lyrics.co.uk which had dropped under everyone's noses. He sold it for, was it £6k? but the lads that bought it came back to tell us they'd flipped it for over £80k!

7 and 45 actually, but still.

 

[Retired_Member42]

Still not dropped. I'm firing up my catcher for this one. £500 of pre-bids.

 

[DaveP]

Still not dropped. I'm firing up my catcher for this one. £500 of pre-bids.

I wouldn't put this on DL personally. IMO this is worth much more to the right buyer unless I'm crazy.