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Nominet NED election time again

I think once he realised he had absolutely no power to do anything and was just a token he decided not to bite the hand that was feeding him and started licking it to make sure he carried on being fed. The same will happen to every NED.

And at that point it became as-plain-as-the-nose-on-your-face obvious why he doesn't deserve to get a second crack at the Nominet NED trough. Let somebody else test their principles against Nominet's resilience - maybe they will endure better... Or maybe, just maybe, they will find enough tenacity and grit to actually make a little bit of a difference.

What's worse than voting for an unknown candidate? Voting for a candidate whose principles have clearly shifted dramatically over the course of their tenure (and very quickly, I might add - we're talking months not years).
 
Well it doesn't matter anyway. They have already done everything they wanted - the only thing left is to keep raising prices which they'll do (as they always have) regardless of whose snout is in the trough. At least they keep all members focused on something irrelevant once per year and can claim they're doing their bit. Rather than voting and debating maybe UK members would be better trying to force an overhaul by contacting MPs, media etc. Nominet have strayed so far away from their original remit and upgraded their gravy train to keep themselves on board that all this does is give you the option of deciding which you'd prefer to stand in - cow pats or dog mess. I choose neither.
 
James Bladel from Godaddy is standing.
So he will be getting the first seat :)

That's the vote settled before the vote then :rolleyes:

Also, what's the point in candidate statements, you could have the greatest statement in the world and be the most qualified person for the job, but if you don't own 6 million domains, you ain't getting nowhere, what a completely pointless crock of shite voting system.
 
Lol what an obvious corrupt farce. No doubt some people will still approach it professionally and try to debate the merits - like asking a lamb how it would prefer to be slaughtered.
 
My vote has been placed for Alex, I didn't choose anyone for the second preference vote.
 
Looks like I became a member just in time ;)

Not sure if my vote will count for much, as I'm not registered as a registrar yet.
 
We need a wider range of people representing all sectors of the Internet & business users to provide input to the board
Yes, currently we have all of "our" slots on the board (which have gone over the years from half of the board to 1/3rd) taken by representatives from the largest 1% of registrars :(

With 2 seats available this time, you have the chance to change the make-up of the 4 member-elect positions to get more registrant/small-business focus, rather than more of the same - not voting (due to the weighting/cap) will be essentially the same as voting for the largest registrar and the encumbant


A) An acknowledgement that Nominet is there to run the UK namespace, and no more than that

It would be impossible to "undo" the morphing now, but it may be possible to control and limit it, they are certainly issues which have always concerned me - what can be done about them within the context of the NED position and overall board composition is difficult to generalise, but if you dont put us on the board, we'll never know for sure ...


B) A strong, firm stance on the pricing of domain registrations/renewals. These should be on a cost recovery basis.

The reduction from £20 to £5 led to £10m+ in surpluses - reducing the price to 'xyz' levels will fuel growth and devalue them overall - imagine if .uk domains were as blocked from mail systems as .science is now - the entire TLD would be useless for current registrants of all types - but changes to the price (up or down) because the Org wants (rather than needs) more cash is a "bad-thing"

C) A recognition that a domain portfolio holder with 5,000 domains is at least as important a customer as 5,000 individual end-users owning a single domain each
I'm not sure we can or should start categorising _registrants_ based on count of registrations - perhaps I'm not grasping where the registrant vs registrar line is on C and D

D) Relating to C), an understanding that if you extend cheap registrations/renewals to end users
Again, not sure I'm completely following as Nominet aren't selling them to end-users

I think we may be mixing terminology and in danger of talking cross-purposes -


For instance, money diverted to the Nominet Trust (or now its successor) or other similar "suck up to government by looking good" entities is NOT a valid way of disposing of surplus funds
The "Membership" overall voted that it was a way of spending the surplus with the changes to the constitution and the wide open expansion of the remit.

You know my opinions on the 'trust' and I hope I made the 'public benefit' question in the candidate pack succinct enough.

Someone some where has decided that Nominet was to shut the Nominet Trust and to use the extra money to invest in Cyber Security?

As per the answers given at the Annual Registrar event, the trust is gone, but the spend (3 to 5 million per year) on "good causes" will continue, just managed in-house rather than externally (I predict 4 years before that changes again) and to be more "tech" focused than before.

but if you don't own 6 million domains, you ain't getting nowhere

Nowhere without the support of a _lot_ of the members but I certainly think it's possible - the (probable) value of the cap will be ~520,000 votes, so that could be countered by 300 of the smallest domain-count members picking different candidates for #1 and #2 - or some combination of 100 members from the whole range of voters

I've now voted. Alex #1. I also voted for Rob Golding as #2. Good luck, chaps!
Thank you :)

I'd love to be joining the board of your registrar with Alex and steering it towards some much needed changes.

It will require all of you who are members voting - enough #1 Rob #2 Alex
and enough #1 Alex #2 Rob
to ensure we're not eliminated first round (so a couple of hundred thousand votes each needed)

If you're a member, cast your vote, it does count no matter how many domains you currently have - if you dont know who to vote for, talk to the candidates - some of us can be a bit grouchy, but we're not unapproachable :p
 
Not sure if my vote will count for much, as I'm not registered as a registrar yet.

If you're "Orchard Digital Ltd" you have the standard member vote of 1848
Combined with 571 more like you, can ensure a candidate has a very real chance of being elected - so it very much counts for something
 
It always interests me when a candidate appears on here only when up for election. Although you may have the very best of intentions, without continuous interaction with one of the largest UK domain forums, how can we be sure you have the interests of the domainers at heart? Fortunately this year we have "one of us" in the form of Alex.
 
It always interests me when a candidate appears on here only when up for election
I'm a lurker not a poster here, but I have been a member for years - you predate me here by 18 months !

The (primary) reason for posting was to say a quick thank-you (having been told today by another candidate - Denesh - that someone said they'd voted for me)
- having read-the-thread, I felt a few of the other posts should be commented on too.

how can we be sure you have the interests of the domainers at heart?
Simply put, I don't - that's because I don't categorise Nominet members that way.

Fortunately this year we have "one of us" in the form of Alex.
And now I have an urge to stick on Peter Gabriel 3 :(
 
I've "known" Rob on other (mostly hosting) forums for a number of years and in my opinion he would appear to be one of the good guys. His company sits between the large and small registrars so I believe he gets invites to both level Nominet events and based on his "performance" at the recent Chelsea event does not seem afraid to ask difficult questions to the exec. Whilst he may not fully understand the domainer business model, I think he would serve you guys far better than the other candidates. Cameron would also appear to be working at the smaller business end of the market, I didn't speak with him for long, but he would be a possible alternative, but I don't know enough about him to comment further.

You guys who've not yet voted, please read the paperwork from Nominet, if necessary ask questions of any / all the candidates and then place your votes based on your own opinions. As Rob says, if we don't vote then the outcome is already known, if we do vote it may not go the way we want, but at least we've done our part as members.
 
As per the answers given at the Annual Registrar event, the trust is gone, but the spend (3 to 5 million per year) on "good causes" will continue, just managed in-house rather than externally (I predict 4 years before that changes again) and to be more "tech" focused than before.

When they started that conference they didn’t mention domain names for about half an hour! It was all about cyber security constantly as if I’d walked in to a Cisco sales pitch.

The problem with Nominet only giving away a few million internally (from domain names) is the Nominet Trust was an arms length charity to donate the surplus profits to. It acted as a way to get the excess money out of Nominet rather than it staying in the coffers (even if it had its faults).

Now the money will only be given away to market Nominet (the company) itself and to make its other cyber products look good.

Also Nominet is expanding the “cyber” department at a rate we can’t see from the outside. However if you look at the careers page you can see all the people they are hiring: https://www.nominet.uk/careers/vacancies/

Why do they need Web developers in “cyber” etc ? To develop the recent Government cyber security contracts they have won:
https://digileaders.com/digital-transformation-is-not-a-destination/

Then see their project 2020 plan:
https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/nominet-prod/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/17161317/Our-strategy.png
Domain names will become the tiny core.

So what are they going to do with the even bigger profits when Nominet is more known for Government cyber security software than domain names? The extra money has to go some where and continuing to give away £3-5 million internally isn’t going to do it.
 
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