6 PAB Candidates

Whois-Search · Mar 2, 2007

There are six PAB candidates this year:

http://www.nic.uk/digitalAssets/16909_PAB_election_statements_2007.pdf

Andrew Bennett - www.whois-search.com (me)

Piers Daniell - www.fluidata.co.uk

Mark Healey - www.kcom.com

David Restall - www.iirc.net

Jarrod Robinson - www.pipexgroup.com

Michael Toth - www.lively.co.uk

There are four places available on the PAB and I would encourage you to read every statement carefully before voting.

I am also grateful to Seb, Hazel and Jason for not restanding (after 4 years) and giving others a chance.

retired_member16 · Mar 2, 2007

Im sure that one of the candidates will lose votes because of the person(s) who have seconded them.

Hazel Pegg · Mar 2, 2007

firestars said:
Im sure that one of the candidates will lose votes because of the person(s) who have seconded them.

You could be right. I'm already having second thoughts about Jarrod Robinson

Hazel

olebean · Mar 2, 2007

Hazel Pegg said:
You could be right. I'm already having second thoughts about Jarrod Robinson

Hazel

There are a number self enhancement candidates...

Hazel

Glad to see you are still "around"

Beasty · Mar 2, 2007

Link Missing

The link to the candidates pages on the Nominet site seems to have gone.

I managed to track it down - so here it is for anyone interested:

http://www.nominet.org.uk/digitalAssets/16909_PAB_election_statements_2007.pdf

I will be interested to hear how the online voting goes.

Good luck to Andrew and Michael!

paulc · Mar 2, 2007

When it says

Mark Healey - www.kcom.com

Does this mean Mark owns KC? or what is the connection.

bb99 · Mar 2, 2007

paulc said:
When it says

Mark Healey - www.kcom.com

Does this mean Mark owns KC? or what is the connection.

He does most (if not all) of the domain stuff at Kingston. Kingston is owned not by Mark but by its shareholders

sneezycheese · Mar 2, 2007

Beasty said:
Good luck to Andrew and Michael!

...May I echo that sentiment and say the odds at 6/4 are looking good.

Hoping that BOTH of you get in!!!

Regards,

Sneezy.

Whois-Search · Mar 2, 2007

Thanks guys

It is an interesting yet important concept picking a seconder and proposer.

Do you go for people with the same background as you i.e. domainers? ......Or do you go for ex-PAB / current PAB members to back you?......... Or do you try and go for one large member and one smaller yet well known member?

At the end of the day does it really matter? You are being elected as you and you have to represent every stakeholder. However it is clear that it can help in getting you elected.

When Jarrod (Pipex) backed Peter Gradwell in last years board election it helped him gain votes:

http://www.nominet.org.uk/governance/board/election/

Maybe we will see Pipex backing Angus at the Board election in May?

However I agree it's an interesting switch in seconders from last years PAB election:

http://www.nominet.org.uk/digitalAssets/16945_2006_PAB_election_archive.pdf

bb99 · Mar 7, 2007

Use your votes wisely in the forthcoming election...

Candidate Mark Healey says in his DRS response:

Mark Healey's DRS response said:
Question 2: Please give us your feedback on our proposal that the DRS should include the following as examples of things that are not necessarily evidence of abuse:
· a general offer to resell a domain name
· sale of traffic (i.e. visitors to the domain name)
· registering many domains

I believe that all of these are in fact examples of things that are evidence of abuse.

and candidate David Restall says on Nom-Steer:

David Restall's email of 6 March 2007 said:
1. In what way do you see the namespace being abused?

Short and sweet this one, dropcatching, hoarding, PPC and 'investing'.

Clearly these are just quotes, taken out of context, and you should of course evaluate each candidate on their full merits before casting your vote.

retired_member16 · Mar 7, 2007

Is it possible that non-catchers, who happen to be permitted to vote, may vote for either of the above in an attempt to level the playing field and reel the catchers back in?

rob · Mar 7, 2007

firestars said:
Is it possible that non-catchers, who happen to be permitted to vote, may vote for either of the above in an attempt to level the playing field and reel the catchers back in?

That would imply the non-catchers have an interest in domains as well
so the

· a general offer to resell a domain name
· sale of traffic (i.e. visitors to the domain name)
· registering many domains

bits probably wouldnt go down well either

tifosi · Mar 7, 2007

bb99 said:
Use your votes wisely in the forthcoming election...

Candidate Mark Healey says in his DRS response:

:
Originally Posted by Mark Healey's DRS response
Question 2: Please give us your feedback on our proposal that the DRS should include the following as examples of things that are not necessarily evidence of abuse:
· a general offer to resell a domain name
· sale of traffic (i.e. visitors to the domain name)
· registering many domains

I believe that all of these are in fact examples of things that are evidence of abuse.

Click to expand...

He's said as much on nom-steer today. His view being that if you don't hold a domain with a 'passion' for it's use then you shouldn't have it! He's obviously entitled to his opinion, but in my view it's pretty naive. The UK namespace has moved on markedly in the last few years, to be more in line with the .com /.de etc. Domains should be seen as business assets.

Isn't there a case here for misinterpreting passion for commercial enterprise? All three cases he cite as 'evidence of abuse' come into that. Sure there could be improvements, and parking companies are working on better contextual templates. But within the framework of DRS policy & procedure? What then, Mr or Mrs I M perfect-for-the-domain come along and say, 'well we could do much better than that' give it here. Also remember parking is a useful intermediary step between acquisition & development.

S

bb99 · Mar 16, 2007

So the polls close at 5pm today... Are the results announced this evening or will it be Monday?

Whois-Search · Mar 16, 2007

bb99 said:
So the polls close at 5pm today... Are the results announced this evening or will it be Monday?

http://www.nominet.org.uk/policy/pab/election/

Monday - 19 March Results will be announced

domainking · Mar 16, 2007

Good luck andrew and michael
all the best

weycresto · Mar 16, 2007

tifosi said:
He's said as much on nom-steer today. His view being that if you don't hold a domain with a 'passion' for it's use then you shouldn't have it!
S

Some pretty weird, strange and dangerous views still floating around on nom-steer I see!

seb · Mar 27, 2007

Whois-Search said:
It is an interesting yet important concept picking a seconder and proposer.

Do you go for people with the same background as you i.e. domainers? ......Or do you go for ex-PAB / current PAB members to back you?......... Or do you try and go for one large member and one smaller yet well known member?

When Jarrod (Pipex) backed Peter Gradwell in last years board election it helped him gain votes

Sorry to come into this debate late but I've been enjoying my last bits of PAB business before freedom

I have always tried to pick new proposers/seconders when I have stood for the PAB. I think I took one of my first ones (I didn't get in first time around) the following year but I never wanted to be allied to any pair of companies too closely.

I have proposed/seconded people in the past.. I've never had a PAB member or their company propose or second me from what I can recall.. although I wouldn't have seen that as a negative thing in any way I don't think that per se will help you much.. I think most people aren't that aware of who'se sitting on the PAB anyway.

There's one no-no as far as I am concerned.. This isn't aimed at anyone as I don't remember who did this, but I would never ever consider having my own company propose or second me.. To me this broadcasts "I have no supporters" (even if you did.. just the impression..)

I like a balance between the proposer and seconder.. this could be small/large or isp/corporate, isp/domainer etc.. just to show you have a broad perspective and support.

That said, I'm not sure having been on the PAB makes me qualified to lecture on the matter.. Andrew's probably better at that.. just my own view

Andrew - I'll be back here in 4 yrs reminding you to step down too to make room for new blood

seb