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Nominet in 2007/2008?

Discussion in 'Nominet General Information' started by Whois-Search, Mar 18, 2007.

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  1. Whois-Search

    Whois-Search Well-Known Member

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    So what is the worst that can happen in 2007/2008 ?


    1. An elected member of the PAB makes one comment on Acorndomains which breaks the PAB code of conduct "2.7 Individual opinion":

    http://www.nominet.org.uk/digitalAssets/10984_070108_codeofconduct.pdf

    That PAB member then gets a 2.11 "Severe Reprimand".

    However unhappy with this the PAB member then starts quoting the Human rights Act and goes to the press.

    This then breaks the PAB code of conduct "2.9 Media Attention".

    So using the recent PAB rule change 75% of all PAB members decide to expell the member:

    http://www.nominet.org.uk/digitalAssets/17119_Board_response_-_meeting_48.pdf

    However at that PAB meeting 4 elected PAB members are missing because they are stuck on a train (trying to get to the new all-in-one day afternoon meeting). So the majority of the Appointed members expell the elected member.


    Then......


    2. Due to recent resignations and the elected PAB being expelled..... Nominet decides to implement Hazel's proposal afterall:

    http://www.nic.uk/digitalAssets/11737_070102_PAB_Composition.pdf

    Nominet decides to have far more appointed members than elected members.


    Meanwhile......

    The PAB starts looking at the Work Programme for 2007: http://www.nic.uk/digitalAssets/17117_070228_PAB_work_programme.pdf



    3. The PAB recommends the board to accept the "Variable registration periods" policy:

    http://www.nic.uk/digitalAssets/17114_070301_Variable_registration.pdf

    www.1and1.co.uk then start offering 10 years registrations for £19.90.

    Feeling that Nominet will soon raise the registration fees (See Governance Consultation: fees) registrants start buying 10 year renewals like hot cakes.

    http://www.nic.uk/governance/consultation/fees/

    This indirectly effects dropcatching as all good names become 'future-noms' instead of pre-noms.

    Meanwhile the DRS policy is updated and gets appiled to the registrations for 10 years:
    http://www.nic.uk/policy/consultations/updatedrs/



    4. The PAB then decides to recommend a policy on "domaining".

    They recommend Nominet does actually raise the registration fee to £20 for Nominet members.

    Also they recommend a quota of 20 names per NEW registrant - ignoring the names people currently own (which become more valuable).

    Also they advise all applications made to .org.uk and .me.uk should be 'vetted'.

    The board accepts this.......

    Then the large Nominet registrars decide to sue Nominet for 'loss of business'. As the number of registrations they are processing at £20 x 20 is vastly different to £5 + FCFS.



    5. The PAB recommends Two letter domains are auctioned off for charity and Nominet goes ahead with this.

    However no sunrise period was in the policy to release the names.

    The international 'domainers' with vast deep pockets then come along and bid crazy amounts of money for names. They then park the names to their PPC search engines.

    DRS complaints then come flooding in on names like BA.co.uk AA.co.uk FT.co.uk however the domainers say they are "generic" and it goes to the High Court.


    6. Lock state is also recommended to be implemented.

    However when some registrars go bust/stop working/stop responding the names are stuck on lock:

    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/03/17/icann_withdraws_registerfly_accreditation/

    Since the registrant set the lock Nominet can't remove the lock.


    7. After looking at the "waiting list" sub-committee reports from 2003 and after holding another subcommittee. The PAB approves "waiting lists". However this system will take longer to implement than EPP!

    Nominet decides they are the only ones who are going to sell the slots for £20 each (cost recovery basis they say).

    However again no trademark sunrise policy was in the proposal and "domainers" are the only ones who can understand/work out drop dates.

    Domainers then buy as many slots as possible - even when the name has just gone in to detagged status.

    The DAC is still used to make "waiting lists" and these lists become far more valuable than ever before.

    Some of the biggest dropcatchers then decide to club together and sue Nominet for "loss of business".


    8. After a "Review of raising industry standards" the PAB decides most registrars are still not following the new Good Practice Terms:

    http://www.nominet.org.uk/registrars/ra/gpt/

    Therefore Nominet decides to make "registrars" go through an accreditation process just like ICANN:

    http://www.icann.org/registrars/accreditation-process.htm

    For which they implement an application fee (since getting the power to do so from EGM3):

    http://www.nic.uk/governance/consultation/fees/


    9. The Board composition proposal is then implemented:

    http://www.nominet.org.uk/governance/consultation/boardcomp/

    Which means all the above and more is decided by:

    3 executive directors - Lesley Cowley, ***** Taylor, Jay Daley?

    3 elected non-executive directors - none of the current non-executives can stand again because they have been on the board more than 3 years already? So who will stand? Angus? Jarrod? Peter?

    3 appointed non-executive directors - Bob Gilbert, A Famous person, A lawyer with degree from Harvard?

    Meaning Nominet is no longer answerable to the membership.


    10. Finally Pipex is sold to.........Schlund (1and1)?

    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/03/12/pipex_for_sale/

    Who then get another ###,### voting allocation on top of #,###,###

    http://www.nominet.org.uk/digitalAssets/9807_Voting_Rights.pdf


    P.S. I wouldn't call the above a conspiracy theory either more of a Risk Management plan for all stakeholders. Also of course I hope it won't happen hence the reason for me posting this.
     
  2. Domain Forum

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    Speculation, innuendo and sheer fantasy. I'll reply in more depth on nom-steer.

    Hazel
     
  5. sneezycheese

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    ..."Nom-Steer"? :confused: Wat's wrong with replying "in depth" on Acorn? - seeing as though this is where the comments have been made!

    We're the great unwashed or something?! :eek:

    Regards,

    Sneezy.
     
  6. Whois-Search

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    1. I'm now told a PAB member would have to do something as serious as passing off as a Nominet spokesman to get a severe reprimand.

    However we all saw how this rule could be miss interpreted during the PAB election with Hazel's individual opinions of candidates :p I believe there is to be a review of it at the first PAB meeting after the election.

    As for the 75% rule i'm now told this is "of all members" of the the PAB - not those present.

    http://www.nic.uk/policy/pab/rules/

    "6.14. Some paragraphs may require a "unanimous" vote or an "absolute majority". In these cases, any abstaining, non-voting or absent PAB Member (excluding nominated PAB Members and vacant posts) counts as a vote against the motion."


    2. I believe the resignations of Dr Willie Black, Richard Martin, Jonathan Zittrain (after one meeting) for reasons still unknown publicly nearly caused elected seats being lost on the PAB. However I would agree there would be a backlash if this was to happen - just like Hazel's PAB composition proposal :p



    3. It is true www.1and1.co.uk sell domains at £1.99 a year as a loss leader. So why not sell their customers 10 years?


    4. The PAB work programme proposal for 2007 says:

    Domaining 1 of 2 and 2 of 2:

    http://www.nic.uk/digitalAssets/17117_070228_PAB_work_programme.pdf

    Now i'm sure they are not going to discuss how good "domaining" is, more like "should their be a policy on it?".

    I understand Nominet would have to consult the membership first before implementing anything like a price rise, quota or vetting.

    A vote of no confidence in the board would be more likely than legal action I agree.


    5. I am now told the PAB discussed these issues back in 2001:

    http://www.nic.uk/digitalAssets/278...r_combinations_at_the_Third_Level_June_01.pdf


    6. Hopefully the Lock State policy will take this in to account.

    However how many .uk names does www.registerfly.com currently have and has Nominet intervened?


    7. Either Nominet uses the current Automaton (+ some kind of checker) and gets registrars to sell WLS slots or it will have to develop a site like www.snapnames.com to sell them itself.

    Also take a look at the legal action threatened by registrars after Verisign tried to implement WLS:

    See "Wait-List Service" on http://www.icann.org/correspondence/issue-index.htm


    8. Then what does Nominet want control of membership fees for? to put them down?

    9. Alex Bligh has been a non-executive for 10 years. How can he stand again when the board is proposing 3 year terms inline with the Higgs Report?

    10. I understand there is a voting cap. However when you buy Pipex you also buy alot of Nominet's registry database to.

    The latest on Pipex is "A deal could be weeks away".

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2007/03/18/cxequit18.xml
     
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    olebean Well-Known Member

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    when is the result out?
     
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    Because there are non-members of Nominet here, and Nominet like to know who's reading & posting.
     
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    fred Active Member

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    He did post it to nom-steer too, and going by the time-stamps it was on nom-steer first. :p
     
  10. sneezycheese

    sneezycheese Active Member

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    ...No issues here with my mate Whois - he's always the first to share! ;)

    I wish that there were more like him! :cry:

    Regards,

    Sneezy.
     
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    grandin Well-Known Member

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    So has whois made it to the PAB?

    Whois are you going to the pub or pab?
    Lee
     
  12. Whois-Search

    Whois-Search Well-Known Member

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    Both..... :) Thanks for all your support guys.
     
  13. rob

    rob Founding Member

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    Good work :)

    Incidently the scenario above would involve alot of nominet legal fees... so thats the surplus 'problem' taken care of :)
     
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