There are so many factors that it's very difficult to compare like with like, as the professionals keep saying. Population density is a major one. In Italy and Spain you have a lot of people living in densely clustered apartment blocks, whereas in the UK we have a much higher proportion of houses. Anyone using Sweden to argue that lockdown is unnecessary is risking serious harms. One person deciding to break the rules because they don't believe public health advice can cause mass casualties. It is more important than ever to counter this stuff. Looking ahead, when we do get a vaccine, there are going to be anti-vax people shouting about it. We'll have to deal with that somehow or other, I would like to see zero tolerance.