Number of domain sales per day

fuzzer · Jun 18, 2014

Would be interested to know your estimates on the amount of actual domain sales that happen per day (just .co.uk) between 2 parties - not registrations, just a direct sale between a seller and a buyer.

Is there anyway to work it out?

Or could you only make a guess based on published sales?

If so, can anyone link me the most comprehensive list?

Brassneck · Jun 18, 2014

It's a shame there are no stats on this. My guess is that the number is probably around 100 per day. Many domainers used to talk about turning over a few per cent of their stock per year - given that they hold a disproportionately high share of marketable domains 3 per cent of say, 1 million, top generics would be 30,000 names per year.

Stephen.

Sam · Jun 18, 2014

You need to get a crystal ball....

There is no daily reported domain sales for .co.uk domains

Alan use to update http://domainprices.co.uk but that's outdated now.

Alot of .co.uk sales will be unreported and never will go public

fuzzer said:
Would be interested to know your estimates on the amount of actual domain sales that happen per day (just .co.uk) between 2 parties - not registrations, just a direct sale between a seller and a buyer.

Is there anyway to work it out?

Or could you only make a guess based on published sales?

If so, can anyone link me the most comprehensive list?

Murray · Jun 18, 2014

Brassneck said:
It's a shame there are no stats on this. My guess is that the number is probably around 100 per day.

That is interesting, I would have guesstimated 20 a day, including domainer to domainer (not that my guess it based on too much)

Might be a way of finding out the total of sedo and domainlore sales, but private sales would be hard to guess.

Brassneck · Jun 18, 2014

Murray said:
That is interesting, I would have guesstimated 20 a day, including domainer to domainer (not that my guess it based on too much)

Might be a way of finding out the total of sedo and domainlore sales, but private sales would be hard to guess.

Mine might well be an overestimate. Even 100 is a tiny proportion of the number of domains held.

Brassneck · Jun 18, 2014

wizard said:
You need to get a crystal ball....

There is no daily reported domain sales for .co.uk domains

Alan use to update http://domainprices.co.uk but that's outdated now.

Alot of .co.uk sales will be unreported and never will go public

Why not take a guess for fun using your wizard powers.....

How many is 'a lot'?

scottmccloud · Jun 18, 2014

You could possibly get an idea if you were successful in lodging a Freedom of Information request with Nominet, asking for a breakdown of transfers etc on a daily basis. Nominet wouldn't know if these were sales, but I'd imagine that the vast majority would be.

Brassneck · Jun 18, 2014

scottmccloud said:
You could possibly get an idea if you were successful in lodging a Freedom of Information request with Nominet, asking for a breakdown of transfers etc on a daily basis. Nominet wouldn't know if these were sales, but I'd imagine that the vast majority would be.

Unfortunately Nominet is not covered by FOI as it not a Government body.

Skinner · Jun 18, 2014

nominet may volunteer the data, if it can be "mangled" into some sort of promotion statistic for .uk

scottmccloud · Jun 18, 2014

I presume Nominet have some sort of mandate from the government to do what they do, so it could be worth an FOI request to the relevant government department?

Edwin · Jun 18, 2014

scottmccloud said:
I presume Nominet have some sort of mandate from the government to do what they do, so it could be worth an FOI request to the relevant government department?

No. The FOI route was tried many times during the .uk consultations. As far as Nominet goes, it's a guaranteed dead end.

scottmccloud · Jun 18, 2014

That's a shame. It all seems a very odd set-up does Nominet!

namealot · Jun 18, 2014

I’ d surprised if the value of all of them PA would buy you much more than a semi in a run down London borough…? Vast majority of the supposedly desirable have the same owners as years ago... and many of the newer launched sites etc seam to be newer regged "Brand"

fuzzer · Jun 20, 2014

thanks for the feedback
would be very interesting to see the amount of transfers going through - wouldn't have to give any names Nominet ;-)

so do Sedo publish all their sales somewhere?

I've sold a few on there but havent seen them on a list.. so I'm guessing not.

Skinner · Jun 20, 2014

Sedo only publish the ones you have given permission to be published.

fuzzer · Jun 20, 2014

Skinner said:
Sedo only publish the ones you have given permission to be published.

So I take it that's not a default setting when you sign up?

Skinner · Jun 20, 2014

Its a per sale basis, I believe either buyer or seller can opt out. I know its there for a buyer from when I bought my vanity name, so I assume its also there for seller.

Edwin · Jun 20, 2014

Here's some data
http://dnpric.es/stats/stats-by-year/?cctld=uk

Over 8 years (2006-2013) there were 4,888 sales recorded at DomainPrices.co.uk for an average of £2,150/sale. That makes just over 600 sales/year.
http://www.domainprices.co.uk/Domain_Sales_Prices.php

Of course, many sellers have a policy of not disclosing any sales at all (it's pretty obvious a lot of stuff is going unreported once you've had the chance to have some one-on-one chats at a few domain industry parties)