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Soon after year 2011 began I received DRS compliant. I was surprises because I had contact with complainant and I believed they would come to their senses to do a deal. Obviously they had different ideas. When I red the compliant it struck me for being so weak. It was simply written by director of the company who is ex professional dancer and has no legal qualifications or good understanding of DRS. I knew already that I had good case but, the weakness of compliant made everything much easier.
Complainant did not say why my registration was abusive but, went to say how great they are and because of so, my domain has received number of visitors and that I have targeted their Google ads. They provided almost no evidence to support their claims. The work for the response began. When we started digging a lot of stuff came out, their brand did not appear to be so solid as they have claimed. My case looked stronger with every finding. We also asked Sedo (because domain was parked at Sedo) to provide answers to questions on how Sedo domain parking works. Sedo kindly offered to help and were able to confirm that I did not change keywords to target the complaint’s links. They also confirmed that I would not be able to target compliant any other way than with the keywords. It was all down to complainant for their links appearing on my parking page. They also answered few other question which helped me to prove that I have not taken advantage of the situation. We also used a lot of quotes from myspace.co.uk and oasis.co.uk decisions to make further arguments.
The main thing what worried us was the numbers provided by complainant. Its possible that the Expert would have taken notice and we thought we don’t want that risk. Because of the Sedo help - we were able to put strong arguments to discredit compliant and all the numbers.
Once I submitted response, I was sure that that complaint received nasty surprise. They sought professional help and their reply was written by the lawyer. Needless to say, most of the stuff would not be considered by the Expert because it was newly raised issues to which I had no ability to reply.
When the mediation has started the feeling of defeat of the complaint was obvious even though they started negotiating over the settlement figure. Finally they agreed to my offer and we made the transfer. They wanted to get over this as quickly as possible. You won’t get any points for guessing who were the winners and the losers in this. The complainant is the big loser. They spent in terms of money of about 4 times more than I would have sold the domain to them in the beginning . The winners are the lawyers who received tidy fees for their work.
I have been involved in one way or anther in domain disputes over the decade. Some people who are involved only can be described as idiots with big egos. Because so, the IP lawyers make good living out of all this.
If the complainant had any brains in this case all this could be resolved quickly at the fraction of the cost and without fuss.
So for those who are thinking to protect their rights I give you few rules to follow:
1. Get your facts right.
2. Talk to the registrant, try to agree to a deal. Be nice and polite.
3. See rule no 2.
4. If you making DRS complaint, do make sure the complaint is a solid as a house of bricks. Provide credible evidence.
5. Think about the mediation, stay focused on the matter and not your ego.
6. Remember - once you click on DRS submit, you are not in control. Even if you decide not to pay for the Expert decision, responded can and will pay for Expert decision, which can lead to the damage to your brand and credibility.
If you are domain registrant/respondent here are few rules for you.
1. Get your facts right
2. Respond on timely manner. Be nice and polite.
3. See rule no 2.
4. If you receive DRS compliant - write the response. Only cover the issues raised in the compliant. Make sure your response is solid and with right evidence.
5. Think about the mediation, stay focused on it and not your ego or greed.
6. Don’t be afraid if case goes to Expert decision, if you get to this point - you have to be sure your case it good. If complaint does not pay for Expert decision, ask the complaint to sing the document confirming that they will not file another DRS (or anything else) in the future. If they don’t sing that, consider paying for the Expert decision. This way you would add credibility to yourself. The successive case will act as a deterrent for other opportunistic punters.
If you don’t know what you are doing, get right advice. Also consider the fact that some lawyers are biased - for their own good.
Thanks for reading,
Max
Complainant did not say why my registration was abusive but, went to say how great they are and because of so, my domain has received number of visitors and that I have targeted their Google ads. They provided almost no evidence to support their claims. The work for the response began. When we started digging a lot of stuff came out, their brand did not appear to be so solid as they have claimed. My case looked stronger with every finding. We also asked Sedo (because domain was parked at Sedo) to provide answers to questions on how Sedo domain parking works. Sedo kindly offered to help and were able to confirm that I did not change keywords to target the complaint’s links. They also confirmed that I would not be able to target compliant any other way than with the keywords. It was all down to complainant for their links appearing on my parking page. They also answered few other question which helped me to prove that I have not taken advantage of the situation. We also used a lot of quotes from myspace.co.uk and oasis.co.uk decisions to make further arguments.
The main thing what worried us was the numbers provided by complainant. Its possible that the Expert would have taken notice and we thought we don’t want that risk. Because of the Sedo help - we were able to put strong arguments to discredit compliant and all the numbers.
Once I submitted response, I was sure that that complaint received nasty surprise. They sought professional help and their reply was written by the lawyer. Needless to say, most of the stuff would not be considered by the Expert because it was newly raised issues to which I had no ability to reply.
When the mediation has started the feeling of defeat of the complaint was obvious even though they started negotiating over the settlement figure. Finally they agreed to my offer and we made the transfer. They wanted to get over this as quickly as possible. You won’t get any points for guessing who were the winners and the losers in this. The complainant is the big loser. They spent in terms of money of about 4 times more than I would have sold the domain to them in the beginning . The winners are the lawyers who received tidy fees for their work.
I have been involved in one way or anther in domain disputes over the decade. Some people who are involved only can be described as idiots with big egos. Because so, the IP lawyers make good living out of all this.
If the complainant had any brains in this case all this could be resolved quickly at the fraction of the cost and without fuss.
So for those who are thinking to protect their rights I give you few rules to follow:
1. Get your facts right.
2. Talk to the registrant, try to agree to a deal. Be nice and polite.
3. See rule no 2.
4. If you making DRS complaint, do make sure the complaint is a solid as a house of bricks. Provide credible evidence.
5. Think about the mediation, stay focused on the matter and not your ego.
6. Remember - once you click on DRS submit, you are not in control. Even if you decide not to pay for the Expert decision, responded can and will pay for Expert decision, which can lead to the damage to your brand and credibility.
If you are domain registrant/respondent here are few rules for you.
1. Get your facts right
2. Respond on timely manner. Be nice and polite.
3. See rule no 2.
4. If you receive DRS compliant - write the response. Only cover the issues raised in the compliant. Make sure your response is solid and with right evidence.
5. Think about the mediation, stay focused on it and not your ego or greed.
6. Don’t be afraid if case goes to Expert decision, if you get to this point - you have to be sure your case it good. If complaint does not pay for Expert decision, ask the complaint to sing the document confirming that they will not file another DRS (or anything else) in the future. If they don’t sing that, consider paying for the Expert decision. This way you would add credibility to yourself. The successive case will act as a deterrent for other opportunistic punters.
If you don’t know what you are doing, get right advice. Also consider the fact that some lawyers are biased - for their own good.
Thanks for reading,
Max