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Shocking; Unemployed man sets himself alight outside jobcentre

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this is shocking and I didn't think would ever see here
although I didn't think I would see in Greece either, but has happened many times there now, tragically
doesn't seem to be 'news' anywhere except in telegraph in a minor link

maybe it's a sign the uk spring is coming sooner than we thought

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/...self-alight-outside-Birmingham-Jobcentre.html

hope he gets help he needs
must have been driven literally mad
 
Welcome to the new Tory world bankers who commit billion pound fraud wont even face trial
whilst some poor sod who has to live on 50 odd quid a week has to resort to these measures.
Reading earlier today the HMRC wrote of 5 billion this year due to ineptitude. Didn't hear of any top minsters or civil servants getting the chop for overseeing such a calamity
 
this is shocking and I didn't think would ever see here
although I didn't think I would see in Greece either, but has happened many times there now, tragically
doesn't seem to be 'news' anywhere except in telegraph in a minor link

maybe it's a sign the uk spring is coming sooner than we thought

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/...self-alight-outside-Birmingham-Jobcentre.html

hope he gets help he needs
must have been driven literally mad

It wasn't because he couldn't get a job, it was because he couldn't get a payment.
 
Unless you work for the government or own an empire, the government give give a cr*p about anyone, the PM couldn't care if this guy died, problem is in Britain most people just accept the way things are and there's not enough people standing up to the government.

This guy would have been desperate to get someone to listen to his plea :|
 
I know, i read the article
I just said it was outside the job centre

What I mean is, it's not a Greek situation ( at least it doesn't look like one )
There is no more people in the U.K taking radical self harm measures than normal. It is tragic and sad all the same, like so many other things in society.
 
What I mean is, it's not a Greek situation ( at least it doesn't look like one )
There is no more people in the U.K taking radical self harm measures than normal. It is tragic and sad all the same, like so many other things in society.

an act of self immolation in Tunisia by a market trader who had literally given up hope started the arab spring

I'm not saying it will do the same here, certainly hope not
but there is a wide undercurrent of unhappiness, desperation in this country too

the similarity with the uk with any other country is widescale change , real change could only come from a revolution
we live in a 2 party state that has dominated for what may as well be forever
and they are rotten through and through
our system takes years to change the simplest things

who knows what the future holds

ironically a grassroots revolution, if it were to happen would be harder to happen here than almost anywhere in the world
 
an act of self immolation in Tunisia by a market trader who had literally given up hope started the arab spring

I'm not saying it will do the same here, certainly hope not
but there is a wide undercurrent of unhappiness, desperation in this country too

the similarity with the uk with any other country is widescale change , real change could only come from a revolution
we live in a 2 party state that has dominated for what may as well be forever
and they are rotten through and through
our system takes years to change the simplest things

who knows what the future holds

ironically a grassroots revolution, if it were to happen would be harder to happen here than almost anywhere in the world

The big difference with the U.K is we have a ballot box. And when the minority of voters become the majority then things change. And I think before people feel sorry for themselves they should learn about the things we hold dear and the basic fundamentals which protect us all.
 
The big difference with the U.K is we have a ballot box. And when the minority of voters become the majority then things change. And I think before people feel sorry for themselves they should learn about the things we hold dear and the basic fundamentals which protect us all.

that's VERY naive

and when the powers that be order mass murder and theft overseas NOTHING happens to the perpertrators, just a token inquiry that we pay for
and banks that steal billions of pounds, they make a few noises and get a fine
the fine goes back to the fsa which then redistributes it back to banks in the way of advice lol
I and others could go on forever

something will give, one day. and it will be through a groundswell. that's how things happen

but, yes people need to come together and change things and that is the beauty of the internet, but you can see how they are trying to wrestle that away from the people
our one great voice and networking tool

bottomline, until we are granted referendums and proportional representation not much will change
my mum is 70, she was offered 1 referendum in all those years and voted and they got something completely different from what they were told

also to start a new party would cost fortunes, normal people hurting at the bottom, don't have those sums, then you have to get round the controlled media by a few extremely rich individuals and corporations who have their own agenda, it would be almost impossible to do, that's not defeatism, realism
then the most controlled watched country on earth
it goes on

then all the powers above, house of lords, royal family, european courts, makes your head spin

but look, we are very much better off than so many other countries

however you do come across as if you're alright jack and have no empathy for the man. I think he should be the focus here, not us taking this off topic
 
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that's VERY naive

and when the powers that be order mass murder and theft overseas NOTHING happens to the perpertrators, just a token inquiry that we pay for
and banks that steal billions of pounds, they make a few noises and get a fine
the fine goes back to the fsa which then redistributes it back to banks in the way of advice lol
I and others could go on forever

something will give, one day. and it will be through a groundswell. that's how things happen

but, yes people need to come together and change things and that is the beauty of the internet, but you can see how they are trying to wrestle that away from the people
our one great voice and networking tool

bottomline, until we are granted referendums and proportional representation not much will change
my mum is 70, she was offered 1 referendum in all those years and voted and they got something completely different from what they were told

also to start a new party would cost fortunes, normal people hurting at the bottom, don't have those sums, then you have to get round the controlled media by a few extremely rich individuals and corporations who have their own agenda, it would be almost impossible to do, that's not defeatism, realism
then the most controlled watched country on earth
it goes on

then all the powers above, house of lords, royal family, european courts, makes your head spin

but look, we are very much better off than so many other countries

however you do come across as if you're alright jack and have no empathy for the man. I think he should be the focus here, not us taking this off topic

Of course I have empathy for the man and if he had the sense to reason he would have seen that what he done was a little like throwing yourself under a train in protest at the fact that your train wasn't running on time or was cancelled.

People who are not mentally ill should get on with it, they should look at themselves, not keep trying to change the big picture, they create a smoke screen to hide their own shortcomings. Life has always had it's challenges and always will have, so therefore each individual should look inside themselves, make sure they get themselves right before trying to change the world. And most of the people who endlessly winge about how things are, don't even exercise their democtatic right to vote in elections, they say the voting procedure isn't fair or some other pathetic excuse to complain about it not being the way they would like it.

And remember it's not what you have that shapes your world, it's what you think.
 
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