20i Reseller Hosting

Blackpool.com / Blackpool.co.uk / Blackpool.uk

Discussion in 'Domain Name Auctions' started by Edwin, Aug 29, 2019.

  1. Edwin

    Edwin Well-Known Member Exclusive Member

    Joined:
    Apr 2005
    Posts:
    9,825
    Likes Received:
    535
    Nothing to see here.
     
    • Optimistic Optimistic x 2
    • Like Like x 1
    Last edited: Sep 13, 2019 at 4:22 PM
  2. Domain Forum

    Acorn Domains Elite Member

    Joined:
    1999
    Messages:
    Many
    Likes Received:
    Lots
    articles.co.uk
     
  3. Edwin

    Edwin Well-Known Member Exclusive Member

    Joined:
    Apr 2005
    Posts:
    9,825
    Likes Received:
    535
    Nothing to see here.
     
    Last edited: Sep 13, 2019 at 4:22 PM
  4. Admin

    Admin Administrator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jun 2004
    Posts:
    10,789
    Likes Received:
    291
  5. Edwin

    Edwin Well-Known Member Exclusive Member

    Joined:
    Apr 2005
    Posts:
    9,825
    Likes Received:
    535
    Nothing to see here.
     
    Last edited: Sep 13, 2019 at 4:22 PM
  6. Trauiner United Kingdom

    Trauiner Active Member

    Joined:
    Feb 2016
    Posts:
    225
    Likes Received:
    23
    Nothing to see here. Deal achieved privately.
     
    • Like Like x 2
    Last edited: Sep 13, 2019 at 4:49 PM
  7. Edwin

    Edwin Well-Known Member Exclusive Member

    Joined:
    Apr 2005
    Posts:
    9,825
    Likes Received:
    535
    Nothing to see here.
     
    Last edited: Sep 13, 2019 at 4:22 PM
  8. Edwin

    Edwin Well-Known Member Exclusive Member

    Joined:
    Apr 2005
    Posts:
    9,825
    Likes Received:
    535
    Nothing to see here.
     
    Last edited: Sep 13, 2019 at 4:22 PM
  9. RobM

    RobM Well-Known Member Exclusive Member

    Joined:
    Mar 2012
    Posts:
    3,021
    Likes Received:
    424
    VAT is a killer
     
    • Agree Agree x 4
  10. Katch!

    Katch! Active Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Mar 2018
    Posts:
    816
    Likes Received:
    94
    Killer for cashflow but I suppose if you're VAT registered you can claim it back. HMRC actually owed me money this quarter :D not that I have received it yet, they sent it in bloody cheque form and in my old business name - practically useless.
     
  11. RobM

    RobM Well-Known Member Exclusive Member

    Joined:
    Mar 2012
    Posts:
    3,021
    Likes Received:
    424
    But if you're not vat registered (and a lot of people aren't) that's 20% on top. It's better to advertise your price including vat in my opinion. That way no surprises to people who might not realise quite how much that is on top for them or a feeling of 'I'm getting a discount' for those who can claim it back. Also why asking the same price for the com as the co.uk? That makes me think (which I'm sure wasn't your intention) that you are overpricing the UK rather than underpricing the .com. Don't get me wrong I'm not saying your prices are not accurate I'm just answering your question about why there may be little interest.
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
    • Like Like x 1
  12. JMI

    JMI Active Member Acorn Supporter

    Joined:
    Oct 2015
    Posts:
    294
    Likes Received:
    52
    Nice domains - a very popular tourist destination.

    Theres no way I'd buy these without the set. We might be pro .co.uk/ here but to invest heavily in the .co.uk whilst not owning the .com would be dangerous - the .com is still one hell of a domain.

    I think you might get more interest if they were priced as a set, no VAT (or included in price), obviously you want to get the end sale price x3 like any seller but on this type of domain it could back fire.
     
  13. Katch!

    Katch! Active Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Mar 2018
    Posts:
    816
    Likes Received:
    94
    That's the thing with VAT, it's usually forgotten about until it pops up on the invoice lol. But yeah I agree, and would think that most sellers on here would absorb VAT on the final sale price or simply price it accordingly with no mention of VAT
     
  14. martin-s United Kingdom

    martin-s Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2012
    Posts:
    3,329
    Likes Received:
    227
    The .com is worth more than £35k on its own. The .uk is worth peanuts and has to be paired with the .co.uk - probably at £10k tops.

    I'd have gone after one big deal on the .com if it were me.
     
    • Disagree Disagree x 3
    • Like Like x 1
    • Funny Funny x 1
  15. Katch!

    Katch! Active Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Mar 2018
    Posts:
    816
    Likes Received:
    94
    I can't help but disagree, Martin. I don't understand why a UK town wouldn't value a UK domain more? The .COM is a good one, but I'd argue that the .co.uk has more upside potential with developments than a .COM. Is it just me who thinks that .COM looks a bit shit for UK business? Perhaps I'm bias.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  16. twostepsbehind United Kingdom

    twostepsbehind Active Member Acorn Supporter

    Joined:
    Aug 2014
    Posts:
    137
    Likes Received:
    12
  17. Katch!

    Katch! Active Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Mar 2018
    Posts:
    816
    Likes Received:
    94
    6 grand for it as well with no VAT is an absolute bargain
     
  18. Trauiner United Kingdom

    Trauiner Active Member

    Joined:
    Feb 2016
    Posts:
    225
    Likes Received:
    23
    • Agree Agree x 2
  19. Katch!

    Katch! Active Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Mar 2018
    Posts:
    816
    Likes Received:
    94
    Change is constant, I would love to see someone monitor the usage of .UK or how many .UK search results there are over the next year or two. I think you're right, right now. But forward thinking people, will likely think a year ahead, or 5 years ahead. What's the domain space going to look like in 2024?
     
  20. JMI

    JMI Active Member Acorn Supporter

    Joined:
    Oct 2015
    Posts:
    294
    Likes Received:
    52
    Don't underestimate the clout of a good {geo}.com
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  21. WalkinDude United Kingdom

    WalkinDude Active Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2012
    Posts:
    860
    Likes Received:
    33
    It amazes Blackpool itself haven't been beating down your door for these domains. I dunno what the odds of getting all three are for a GEO nowadays but that's it right there - The Big Three. .com, .co.uk, .uk... though I wouldn't have said no to a .org squeezed alongside.

    If you got the dosh for one you'd simply have to find the dosh for the other 2 cos chances like this don't grow on trees. And what I like is Blackpool isn't like say Manchester which is a robust metropolitan area far too big for this sort of thing to be a priority in manner London as a city probably couldn't care less who owns London.com. Blackpool in contrast is screaming out for a platform of itself to showcase the Tourism, Investment, Property options as the it moves forward into the digital era.

    You'd think [or maybe this is just how I think], someone in the Town Hall would say we'll buy this and put it to it's proper use. Set it up for the young creatives to bring energy and life to it; something more than the usual 'portal' type website and away we go. Sexy Modern Blackpool, vibrant, full of opportunity etc. Wasn't so long ago I noticed entire hotels up for sale for sort of money you'd struggle to get a bathroom for in London. It's impossible for me to see how they could lose. Winner for all who'd participate. Evolution is being thrust upon us and there's no escaping it and these domains carve a path through it for a place like Blackpool as I've read various articles on the economic challenges.

    You go .co.uk for the formal stuff, hand the dotcom over to the 'young creatives' as their 'exciting space' [arts, tech, and all the rest of it], and hold the .uk in reserve to cover the backdoor. It's a digital unifying force and identity for an entire community, proud one too.

    I'd spend a weekend polishing off the proposal, get it to over them, 100k lets spit on our hands and get this over with, and if they say no their loss, and back to 35k or whatever it is all in for us lot. What it's worth to them, and what it's worth to a domainer are two completely different valuations imho. It matters not whether they realise it or not, I've known top official types who don't even know what whatsapps for let alone a domain name, but there is no escaping they will need to know and the argument is strong.

    Over time the odds of Blackpool [it's establishment], coming to realise the near infinite opportunity as a geo brand this offers will improve as the technology is on the way for them to do amazing things with it. The technology is bringing forth answers like what do you when as a community your future has to work differently to your past. Once you know the answer to those questions you need a platform to showcase those answers.
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
    • Like Like x 1
    • Winner Winner x 1