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  1. Stephen United Kingdom

    Stephen Well-Known Member

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    channel web story on crawleycomputercentre.co.uk

    http://www.channelweb.co.uk/crn-uk/news/2288580/crawley-turf-war-resolved-in-favour-of-new-firm

    what about other generic and emd domains on search terms with no business when registered but there is a business now, is this a change in policy at Nominet?
     
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    It will be interesting to read the case they are all published by nominet aren't they. Looks like this was not a simple passing of type complaint though with lots of prior history between the parties I'm guessing if they prepared a proper defense they would not have lost it.
     
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    The piece is unreliable - it gives a 2002 reg date for the domain, but the WHOIS says 2007.

    If you use the WHOIS date and follow the other facts, there was a competitor business trading as Crawley Computer Centre when Frontline registered it. Just a different company running it. A "newer company" bought the "Crawley Computer Centre" trading entity from an older company. The domain reg pre-dates the new company by a matter of months.

    If you approach the piece from the assumption that Nominet got it right, it makes more sense. There is no change in policy here. Given that the only quotes are from the disgruntled abusive registrant, it repeats arguments that have been dismissed.

    The morals of the story are:
    1) To avoid heartache, register the names you trade as before someone else does.
    2) Don't register local competitors' trading names.
    3) You can always moan to the press, even if you're in the wrong.
     
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    Have you read the decision? It's not straight forward at all:

    etc etc etc etc

    Plus the article is wrong with the registration date of the domain.

    http://www.nominet.org.uk/disputes/resolving-domain-disputes/how-it-works/decisions-search

    Grant
     
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    Thanks

    Thanks for explaining the situation and using whois for dates (pity the journalist didn't)

    Sorry I just read the article as have "Nominet" as Google alert for .uk news and I thought it was worth looking at, so posted it.
     
  7. PaulGregory

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    I was brought up in a left-leaning but Daily Mail-reading household, so I am used to discounting the headline, opening line and overall impression of any story in favour of reassembling facts.

    This story revolves around the difference between "newer business" and "newer Ltd company", and the article headline is thus vague when it says "newer firm"

    I appreciate you sharing the story with us though. Apart from anything it nudged me into picking up a name off my maybe list.
     
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