Google Farmer/ Panda update ends minisites?

[RSK3000]

Does the Google Farmer/ Panda update mean the end of minisites?

The update appears to penalise 'low value' sites.

 

[cc976a]

Is it in already and started wiping out minisites?

 

[RSK3000]

Yes lots have sites have been hit. Don't know about minisites specifically - thats why I'm asking the qustion, really.

Currently its only US traffic, but its only a matter of time before Google roll it out worldwide.

 

[peter_w]

It's not really targeting mini sites. It's targeting those sites that have hundreds/thousands of auto generated or very weak content pages.

 

[mat]

Basicly, if your sites crap, it will get dropped.

Quite fair really!

 

[Blossom]

Basicly, if your sites crap, it will get dropped.

Quite fair really!

It's not as simple as that, check out all these sites that have been hit: http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Webmasters/thread?tid=76830633df82fd8e&hl=en

Obviously there will be plenty of people there who wrongly assume they've been affected, but it's pretty clear that an automated algorithm change on such a big scale isn't perfect.

 

[DomainManagement]

Can i join in

It's not as simple as that, check out all these sites that have been hit: http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Webmasters/thread?tid=76830633df82fd8e&hl=en

Obviously there will be plenty of people there who wrongly assume they've been affected, but it's pretty clear that an automated algorithm change on such a big scale isn't perfect.

If you go down the posts and check out seo 101 he seems to cut through the
noise about the posts there

I think its very dangerous to start calling sites mini sites bad etc etc as a site is a site and if it has been created correctly with on page seo as it should be
it doers not matter how many pages it has , the quality of the content =
quality of the links , yes you can pick holes in this

but it is possible to have a site ranking page 1 pos 1 with not a lot of great content dependent on the competition i have a few

there are lots of so called mini sites making money you can take it to a extreme there is a guy who has i think 10,000 websites yes 10,000
and he makes his money on some of them or i even think he said most of them with adsense did you just hear that $10,000 a day ok has a staff of 85 mostly outsourced and the guy is British Great mark vurnum Google it

i wish instead of getting bogged down with mini site quality Google slaps etc etc open your eyes there is so much out there .

i know it sounds crazy but if i could have $27 per day then 27 x 3500 = 94,500 per day = 661,500 per week x 52 = 34,398,000

not bad hey ok so lets say you all think i am pi**ed hoW much is my judgement out , lets say i am 90% wrong 3,439,000 is still nice

Night Night

I Love Domains and the opportunities the present us,limited only be our imagination

by the ways its not the money that excites me , it making it happen
and seeing it work that's the pleasure

 

[springer]

Mini sites can at times offer much greater value to visitors than medium to large sites.

For example, if I am looking for a TV Bed, I would much rather visit a site just about TV beds than a site all about beds or bedroom furniture. I would expect such a site to serve my needs best as it is concentrated exactly on what I am looking for.

What exactly defines a mini-site anyway? How many pages?

 

[orchardapple]

Mini sites can at times offer much greater value to visitors than medium to large sites.

For example, if I am looking for a TV Bed, I would much rather visit a site just about TV beds than a site all about beds or bedroom furniture. I would expect such a site to serve my needs best as it is concentrated exactly on what I am looking for.

What exactly defines a mini-site anyway? How many pages?

exactly and what defines 'quality'

 

[denchomsky]

exactly and what defines 'quality'

Apparently Googles algorithm

 

[philiporchard]

I've developed mini sites of just 1 or 2 pages and they've gone up in the search results in the last week. If the site has value then i think 'minisite' or not, it should be ok.

 

[wb]

I've developed mini sites of just 1 or 2 pages and they've gone up in the search results in the last week. If the site has value then i think 'minisite' or not, it should be ok.

Same here, haven't noticed any detrimental changes since this apparent UK update.

By the way Phil, the 4a/4b links in your signature need '.co.uk' adding to them just in case you hadn't noticed!

 

[RSK3000]

My understanding is that you do see new minisites ranking well for a few days/ weeks, then dropping back down the rankings.

 

[doodlebug]

Can be annoying because if I wanted to search for eg a red microwave and someone made a Storeburst site using redmicrowaves.co.uk with 25 different microwaves and some the same with different prices then that is exactly what I want,all the choices in one place rather than having to go searching through Argos,Comet and Dixons etc.

 

[philiporchard]

Same here, haven't noticed any detrimental changes since this apparent UK update.

By the way Phil, the 4a/4b links in your signature need '.co.uk' adding to them just in case you hadn't noticed!

Thanks for letting me know!

 

[denchomsky]

Can be annoying because if I wanted to search for eg a red microwave and someone made a Storeburst site using redmicrowaves.co.uk with 25 different microwaves and some the same with different prices then that is exactly what I want,all the choices in one place rather than having to go searching through Argos,Comet and Dixons etc.

Agreed, but google penalises for this, as they see is as an unnecessary step to get to the final destination page.

 

[wonder_lander]

I've done some research across our sites and on the whole they have all risen up the serps. With a bit more plugging away at good content and some link building I expect that we'll be sitting at #1 for a fair few new keywords!

Interesting to see the big voucher code sites that seem to have been whacked with this update.

 

[peacock]

From what I have seen so far, most of my sites seem to be business as usual / more traffic than normal. I can see that things have been shaken up though. Did some affiliate sales from sites I thought were dead and buried

My sites tend to be keyword domain + unique content + not many backlinks but the ones I have are nicely relevant.

Also from what I observe in brand + voucher code search it is also the same old faces so I think the data about the voucher code sites is a bit off.

 

[newguy]

I've seen a number of competitors sites with only a handful of inbound links, or weak content drop. People with unique content and revelant inbound links seems to be ranking well though, as you'd hope and expect.

 

[Brassneck]

Very little change here, although some niche sites seem to be a bit stronger.

Stephen.