"Unpaid Domains Department" ?

[domaingenius]

I did a whois on a .com name today and noticed that it had "expired" in August 2005 but was still not available and instead the registrant is now listed as
"register.com, Unpaid Names Department-R, 575 Eighth Avenue, New York, NY 10018 US" who were the original registraRS for the name. I have come across this a few times before also. What do they do, snatch the name because they see the customer is not renewing it and then keep it themselves ? I thought that they had to expire it?.

DG

 

[retired member 1]

I did a whois on a .com name today and noticed that it had "expired" in August 2005 but was still not available and instead the registrant is now listed as
"register.com, Unpaid Names Department-R, 575 Eighth Avenue, New York, NY 10018 US" who were the original registraRS for the name. I have come across this a few times before also. What do they do, snatch the name because they see the customer is not renewing it and then keep it themselves ? I thought that they had to expire it?.

DG

This happens a fair bit, Enom did it to me with a 3 letter .us domain, I had an old email address setup which I check infrequently so I missed the renewal date, it then went into extended RGP and now Enom actually own it as I gave up all rights to the domain past the 90 days ERGP.

I have the option to buy it back, but at a hefty markup i'm not willing to pay.

 

[aqls]

network solutions did it to me

-aqls-

 

[domaingenius]

But arent these domains meant to go back into the "pot" (pot ??) to be caught by Tagnames ?.

DG

 

[Admin]

But arent these domains meant to go back into the "pot" (pot ??) to be caught by Tagnames ?.

DG

I really don't understand your post DG, what's Tagnames got to do with catching a .COM?

 

[aqls]

From ICANN FAQ

I want a domain that has recently expired, but the registrar won't release it. How can I get the name?

ICANN's rules say that the registrar has to drop the domain unless there are extenuating circumstances e.g. dispute about the name.

Also they have a hard time policing their rules

http://www.icann.org/faq/#rgp

Section 3.7.5 of the Registrar Accreditation Agreement requires registrars to delete domain registrations after a second notice and a grace period, unless there are "extenuating circumstances." Some examples of such "extenuating circumstances" might include ownership disputes, payment disputes, or lame server delegations. Only the registrar would know exactly why it hasn't yet deleted a particular name. No specific dates or deadlines are prescribed in the current provisions.

ICANN has not yet adopted a uniform policy concerning the handling of expired domain names. If you're interested in helping to craft such a policy, you can learn more about ICANN's bottom-up, consensus-based process for making new policies at ICANN's website.




-aqls-

 

[domaingenius]

I really don't understand your post DG, what's Tagnames got to do with catching a .COM?

Sorry just being facetious admin,

DG

 

[domaingenius]

From ICANN FAQ

I want a domain that has recently expired, but the registrar won't release it. How can I get the name?

ICANN's rules say that the registrar has to drop the domain unless there are extenuating circumstances e.g. dispute about the name.

Also they have a hard time policing their rules

http://www.icann.org/faq/#rgp

Section 3.7.5 of the Registrar Accreditation Agreement requires registrars to delete domain registrations after a second notice and a grace period, unless there are "extenuating circumstances." Some examples of such "extenuating circumstances" might include ownership disputes, payment disputes, or lame server delegations. Only the registrar would know exactly why it hasn't yet deleted a particular name. No specific dates or deadlines are prescribed in the current provisions.

ICANN has not yet adopted a uniform policy concerning the handling of expired domain names. If you're interested in helping to craft such a policy, you can learn more about ICANN's bottom-up, consensus-based process for making new policies at ICANN's website.




-aqls-

Hmm ,seems like they will keep it for themselves then. Its ok having rules but if you cant enforce them whats the point of having them in first place.

DG

 

[Jay Daley]

ICANN's rules say that the registrar has to drop the domain unless there are extenuating circumstances e.g. dispute about the name.

Also they have a hard time policing their rules

There are politics involved here as well. ICANN have done a deal with Verisign (the registry behind .com) for them to run a wait list service. This is bitterly opposed by several registrars because it prevents them running their own wait listing service (which is effectively what you've run into). So a group of them are involved in legal action to prevent the WLS going ahead.