Useful links related to V2 .uk consultation

[Edwin]

Consultation intro: http://www.nominet.org.uk/how-parti...ussions-and-consultations/registration-second

Online consultation form: http://www.surveygizmo.com/s3/1276711/Nominet-Consultation-for-registration-at-the-second-level

Editable PDF version of consultation: http://www.nominet.org.uk/sites/default/files/secondleveldomainregistrationukeditablepdf.pdf

Submission link for edited PDF: http://www.surveygizmo.com/s3/12767...gistration-at-the-second-level-PDF-submission

News about the consultation:
http://www.mydomainnames.co.uk/articles.html
http://www.notagreatplacetobe.org.uk/press/

V2 consultation submissions:
http://www.mydomainnames.co.uk/v2response2.pdf
https://www.openrightsgroup.org/ourwork/reports/response-to-nominets-second-.uk-consultation
http://blog.alex.org.uk/2013/08/25/net-into-dire-muck-an-anagram-of-nominet-direct-uk/
http://www.youruk.org.uk/SWildeUKfeedbackV2.pdf
http://www.ico.org.uk/about_us/cons...level-domain-registration-in-uk-july-2013.pdf

Independent Nomensa report on V1 consultation results
http://www.nominet.org.uk/sites/default/files/NomensaAnalysisFinal.pdf

Remember, the deadline is September 22!

 

[Stephen]

possibly the only one, supporting .uk?

V2 .uk consultation

Possibly the only feedback that supports .uk, apart from those that just want the pain and uncertainty to end.

my feedback can be found at:

http://www.youruk.org.uk/SWildeUKfeedbackV2.pdf

as Edwin has stated hope you submit your feedback, whatever it is,
before the Nominet deadline 22 09 13 this Sunday.

 

[Edwin]

Great effort, Stephen. Even though I don't agree with a number of your points, I fully appreciate the time and energy you've sunk into this. 8b especially is a great list of Nominet's failings!

At the end of the day, it doesn't matter who agrees with what - it matters that ENOUGH people respond to the consultation (even if it's a one paragraph answer stating total opposition to .uk as a concept).

 

[websaway]

V2 .uk consultation

Possibly the only feedback that supports .uk, apart from those that just want the pain and uncertainty to end.

my feedback can be found at:

http://www.youruk.org.uk/SWildeUKfeedbackV2.pdf

as Edwin has stated hope you submit your feedback, whatever it is,
before the Nominet deadline 22 09 13 this Sunday.

Don't you think your answer to nominet should be a NO because

Rather than a YES but.

 

[Stephen]

explained fully

Don't you think your answer to nominet should be a NO because

Rather than a YES but.

Thanks.

I think my position is explained fully in my feedback response.

I have tried to deal with the many short comings of the .uk proposal and have made alternative suggestions and observations in all areas.

 

[websaway]

Thanks.

I think my position is explained fully in my feedback response.

I have tried to deal with the many short comings of the .uk proposal and have made alternative suggestions and observations in all areas.

So therefore should it not be NO and here are the reasons........

 

[Stephen]

add a link here to your feedback

So therefore should it not be NO and here are the reasons........

You are welcome to add your feedback on .uk in the way you see fit.

I hope that you add a link here to your feedback, so I and others can see your .uk views.

Thanks I will leave mine as is, although I'm still looking through my reams of notes to ensure all relevant points have been included.

 

[websaway]

You are welcome to add your feedback on .uk in the way you see fit.

I hope that you add a link here to your feedback, so I and others can see your .uk views.

Thanks I will leave mine as is, although I'm still looking through my reams of notes to ensure all relevant points have been included.

The point I'm making is

Is a yes but, a yes ?

So Nominet would report back xx% were in favour of .uk
although some did not like a, some did not like b, but you cannot please everyone, some will inevitably be unhappy with their own position.

How do you see that panning out ?

 

[Edwin]

Question 4a of the consultation reads:

4.a Do you agree with the proposal to enable second level domain registration in the way we have outlined?
Yes No

That means (just by breaking down the sentence above)...
A) If you agree with V2, tick YES
B) If you agree with the idea of .uk, but not V2, tick NO (it's not "the way we have outlined")
C) If you disagree with the idea of .uk, tick NO

For B) and C) the space below allows for plenty of room to expand and clarify the "NO" (and to distinguish between a yes/no on the principle of .uk itself and a yes/no on the specific implementation)

In other words, the way Nominet have worded 4a (the confusion is of their own making since they've shoe-horned 2 questions into 1 sentence) you should only be ticking YES if you agree with both .uk AND the V2 implementation of .uk.

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What they should have done in an ideal world filled with unicorns and rainbows:

4.a Do you agree with the idea of launching .uk domains at the second level? YES NO (if yes, go to question 4b; if no, go to question 4d)
4.b Do you agree with the proposal to enable second level domain registration in the way we have outlined? YES NO
4.c Please tell us your reasons for agreeing or disagreeing with the proposal (then please go to question 5)
4.d Please state your reasons against launching .uk

 

[Stephen]

may come down to numbers

The point I'm making is

Is a yes but, a yes ?

So Nominet would report back xx% were in favour of .uk
although some did not like a, some did not like b, but you cannot please everyone, some will inevitably be unhappy with their own position.

How do you see that panning out ?

Pointed noted but it can be spun from any partial sentence.

All the more reason for everybody to get in there .uk feedback.

The tide of opinion I have seen is against .uk but a lot of them seem apathetic and resigned to Nominet getting there way, and the danger is they will not bother to submit their feedback.

But pieces like Alex Bligh anti .uk feedback which I did a press release on, Edwin's feedback and the most recent .uk feedback from the Open Rights Group highlighted today by Edwin, show there are some very strong voices against .uk but it may come down to numbers of responses.

We might not get the Nomensa summary this time and so with a Nominet only summary, in my opinion it will be biased, another reason as Edwin and others have said another reason to submit feedback which will be published in full.

 

[Stephen]

4 a amended my feedback

Question 4a of the consultation reads:

That means...
A) If you agree with V2, tick YES
B) If you agree with the idea of .uk, but not V2, tick NO (it's not "the way we have outlined")
C) If you disagree with the idea of .uk, tick NO

For B) and C) the space below allows for plenty of room to expand and clarify the "NO" (and to distinguish between a yes/no on the principle of .uk itself)

In other words, the way Nominet have worded 4a (the confusion is of their own making since they've shoe-horned 2 questions into 1 sentence) you should only be ticking YES if you agree with both .uk AND the V2 implementation of .uk.

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What they should have done:

4.a Do you agree with the idea of launching .uk domains at the second level? YES NO (if yes, go to question 4b; if no, go to question 4d)
4.b Do you agree with the proposal to enable second level domain registration in the way we have outlined? YES NO
4.c Please tell us your reasons for agreeing or disagreeing with the proposal (then please go to question 5)
4.d Please state your reasons against launching .uk

Thanks for pointing that out, I spend so much time on the copy I had omitted to answer it directly. I have amended my feedback to answer "No" to 4a.

 

[Edwin]

Thanks for pointing that out, I spend so much time on the copy I had omitted to answer it directly. I have amended my feedback to answer "No" to 4a.

Stephen (and others reading this thread) you may want to attach your custom feedback to Nominet's own editable PDF, using a tool such as PDF Split and Merge http://www.pdfsam.org/ which lets you join two documents.

That way, you're still able to show that you've checked all the boxes, while having as much room as you like to expand your individual answers.

In other words, you fill in just the basics on the editable PDF such as your personal and company details, and the checkboxes, and put "see additional information, below" or similar for each answer, and then the second part of the file is your original format submission.

 

[websaway]

Sorry Stephen, my misunderstanding.
You are answering NO to question 4a.