value of .uk .co.uk and .org.uk in couple of yrs

[philiporchard]

Hi All,

I've been wondering how the values between .uk .co.uk and .org.uk will compare in a couple of years time.

For example, let's assume hairdressers.couk is worth £10k. I'd then surmise that hairdressers.orguk would be around £1k.

Ignoring development or content, what ratios would there be in a couple of years for the pure domains? Maybe, hairdressers.uk 10k, hairdressers.couk £2k, hairdressers.orguk £750.

I think the ratio between .co.uk and .org.uk will decrease.

Any thoughts?

 

[Edwin]

The .uk will make the .org.uk pretty much worthless.

Instead of being a "poor man's .co.uk" it becomes third fiddle.

Now we will just have to wait that couple of years to see if ".uk is a poor man's .co.uk" or ".co.uk is a poor man's .uk" - impossible to predict right now. But we can predict with quite a good degree of certainty that .uk will at the very least bump .org.uk down into third place (whether the .uk itself ends up as the #1 or #2 extension being still unclear).

So we will see:
1. .uk
2. .co.uk
3. .org.uk

or:
1. .co.uk
2. .uk
3. .org.uk

or maybe:
1. .co.uk and .uk (pretty much even in value; MUCH more than 3.)
3. .org.uk (It's still THIRD not second. Just like the third person to cross the finish line gets bronze, even if the first two had such a close photo finish that they both take a gold apiece)

 

[accelerator]

I reckon that:

1. .uk
2. .co.uk
3. .org.uk

is most likely. .uk has the advantage of being shorter and more easy to say, so better for marketing.

Rgds

 

[Murray]

Do you guys believe buyers would want the .uk without the co.uk though, or vice versa?

I'm not sure how widely adopted .uk will be for the foreseeable future, I know personally I wont want to mess around with 301'ing my co.uk's to the .uk and potentially slip in search ranking just to drop the co

I know you guys above have some very nice geos.. lets pretend they're just the domains and you you haven't developed them, if someone made you an outstanding offer on the co.uk but you could keep the .uk, would knowing you still have the .uk now make it more likely you would sell?

 

[Skinner]

If william hill would take my money, I'd like to bet my last 12 months gross income, and bet that potential customers will say "so its £X,XXX for both names, I only want 1 tho, how about £XXX instead for the one ?" before 2014 is done.

Do you guys believe buyers would want the .uk without the co.uk though, or vice versa?

 

[accelerator]

I think in time the .uk is going to be more valuable than the .co.uk. Personally I would prefer to own a .uk over a .co.uk.

 

[Edwin]

Do you guys believe buyers would want the .uk without the co.uk though, or vice versa?

Yes, for the reason Skinner gave.

It's hard to say what will happen in practice when faced with a good take it or leave it offer, but at the moment I plan to resist any such logic and make it clear you buy the pair, or you buy nothing.

 

[Dr Harnak Rayat]

What would be the added value of having the .uk extention alongside the .co.uk?

I do believe that the combination of the co.uk with .uk will have a symbiotic relationship for domain values.

With all the talk and the current instability in the .uk name space what will be the impact on domain values?

I believe that as soon as the shorter .uk extension is released it will quickly be taken up by the .co.uk holder and run alongside their .co.uk domain. The impact will be that the savvy public will rapidly adopt the shorter .uk domain extension. This will also as a result have the effect of the shorter .uk extension gaining trust in uk publics eyes. As a result in the .uk namespace the pairing of the shorter .uk extension alongside of the .co.uk domain will have a really positive impact on domain values. In addition the effect on the publics search habits will be that the organic search results may prefer the shorter .uk extension for the uk's local searches and more so when the two domains are paired.

I also wonder what will be the impact on the value of major local generic domains such as the following pairings

carinsurance.uk and carinsurance.co.uk
car-insurance.uk and car-insurance.co.uk

http://www.acorndomains.co.uk/uk-do...alue-having-uk-extention-alongside-co-uk.html

 

[Bailey]

Personally, I think there's going to be a bit of a 'mind set split' at least initially.

With the internet as established as it is today, it's going to take some time for the UK public get away from their 'autopilot' use of .co.uk. However, for those building for a Global audience (Corporations etc) Their switch to just .UK will be almost immediate.

It's going to be a 'Horses for Courses' scenario for some time to come, is my prediction.

So if you really wanted to break it down to a 'monetary value' of each extension or the pair - It's really a similar scenario to distinguishing between .com and .co.uk. Understanding who's asking for the domain and what is their intended use will probably be more enlightening as to what you can reasonably expect to ask.

However, given they are both UK domains, I'm with Edwin from a sellers perspective. If you want to buy it's the 'enhanced' pair

 

[Dr Harnak Rayat]

The added value of having the .uk extention alongside the .co.uk?

With all the talk and the current instability in the .uk name space what will be the impact on domain values?

I believe that as soon as the shorter .uk extension is released it will quickly be taken up by the .co.uk holder and run alongside their .co.uk domain. The impact will be that the savvy public will rapidly adopt the shorter .uk domain extension. This will also as a result have the effect of the shorter .uk extension gaining trust in uk publics eyes fairly rapidly. As a result in the .uk namespace the pairing of the shorter .uk extension alongside of the .co.uk domain will have a really positive impact on domain values. In addition the effect on the publics search habits will be that the organic search results may prefer the shorter .uk extension for the uk's local searches and more so when the two domains are paired.

I also wonder how the publics viewing habits will affect the search engine rankings of such domains.

 

[Retired_Member38]

The .uk will make the .org.uk pretty much worthless.

Instead of being a "poor man's .co.uk" it becomes third fiddle.

I think you have a complete lack of understanding of who is buying .org.uk's and what they're doing with them.

They are bought and sold as seo plays - nothing more, nothing less. If they rank - you make money. They were never going to become 'brands', advertise on the radio or be seen on the side of a bus.

They were always a 2nd fiddle extension to begin with - it doesn't matter at all whether there is one or two extensions ahead of them in the queue.

They are being made completely worthless - but that was Googles making... it has zero to do with .uk