Where has my CT Rev gone and why?

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[Ellis]

Adult Domains = Rubbish PPC

ND have a 24 hour delay between posting generic prices and getting the exact rate from their ad partners.

$0.02 is pretty average I'm afraid

 

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[denchomsky]

It's the opposite for me, after adjustments my PPC rate is alway's higher.

I find ND pays around 3 times more than Sedo on my names?

 

[NameDriver]

Hi www,

I'm sorry to hear that your love affair with ND wasn't particularly long-lasting. I can only say I'm sorry that you've decided to go back to Sedo but do have to point out that your test maybe showed us in not the best light.
I think judging our entire program on 16 clicks from Friday is a little harsh.

Firstly as they were adult clicks - notoriously low-paid.
Secondly as 4 of the 16 came from Asia or 'Other' - notoriously low-paid
Thirdly as Friday is a low-PPC day as PPC budgets are exhausted earlier in the week.
Fourthly, well 16 clicks is 16 clicks and not many to make a definitive judgement on.

It does state on every stats page that we show default click prices until we receive the real earnings from Google. We prefer to do this rather than set generic per-keyword prices that Sedo do as it allows our customers to see how high Google will actually pay for a click. And unfortunately how low.

I'm not going to make any bones about it, if Sedo pay far more for those domains then that is simply a fact and there's no amount of words I can write here to dispute that, so I'll stop.

I hope you have a decent Sunday despite our poor performance.

Ed

 

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[retired member 1]

I think you'd find if you moved all domains from Sedo to Namedrive for a week (providing they aren't all adult) and looked at it as a day/day performance Namedrive would come out on Top by some way overall. (For me it's averaging 200-250% better) but then of course it also depends on the domains and where the traffic is coming from.

 

[retired_member11]

It's the opposite for me, after adjustments my PPC rate is alway's higher.

I find ND pays around 3 times more than Sedo on my names?

3 times? Is this true?

 

[retired_member11]

I think you'd find if you moved all domains from Sedo to Namedrive for a week (providing they aren't all adult) and looked at it as a day/day performance Namedrive would come out on Top by some way overall. (For me it's averaging 200-250% better) but then of course it also depends on the domains and where the traffic is coming from.

200-250% better? Is this true?

I have a Sedo pro account which is said to pay more than a 'standard' Sedo ppc account, although I'm not sure how much more in percentage terms, but ND paying 2 to 3 times more than Sedo seems too good to be true. How is this possible?

 

[aqls]

I think it is possible (don't quote me) because I heard somewhere that Namedrive have more cleverly been able to determine what google pays them for each click, whereas with sedo it's more of a category average they use.

So for some domains, ND will be able to pay exactly proportionate to what google pays them which may be a bad thing (eg some po rn) whereas sedo is probably using a category average, whilst some things may be much better in ND like maybe finance and many others)

So the thing is to test your whole portfolio with ND for a couple of weeks (bearing in mind that you should only take the figures from two days ago as the day to day figures are an ND guess, and google only tells them the real results two days later from which they can calculate the earnings.)

Take into account too that it takes a few days for all the nameservers around the world to update with the new nameserver details, so at times you will be getting clicks in both sedo and namedrive.

But once it's all settled down, move the ones that you were earning more in sedo with back to them and for the rest tell sedo to sodoff.

It's worked for me, though to be honest rather than hassle, I keep most with ND as generally I get higher returns.

-aqls-

 

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[retired member 1]

200-250% better? Is this true?

I have a Sedo pro account which is said to pay more than a 'standard' Sedo ppc account, although I'm not sure how much more in percentage terms, but ND paying 2 to 3 times more than Sedo seems too good to be true. How is this possible?

I was also Sedo Pro, on the whole a Sedo Pro account made about €0.02 difference per click, the % difference with Namedrive and Sedo is in the bottom line, my CTR and avergage PPC makes the difference between $xxx at Sedo and $xxxx at Namedrive every month. The actual difference in PPC is around $0.14 average at Sedo and $0.25 at Namedrive but with the CTR being much higher with ND.

Never fall in love with one PPC provider, it really pays to shop around all of them and find the best for each and every domain, i'm not 100% namedrive, but the vast majority are with them (over 90%).

It seems like a lot of hard and tedious work, but IMO the benefits of doing this are certainly worth it.

 

[NameDriver]

Sorry guys, have to run. But, wwwdomain.name, of course you'd be very welcome to come back

I'll be more forthcoming on this thread when I'm in the Venetian

Ed

 

[denchomsky]

3 times? Is this true?

Yep, i have acouple of ringtone names that never got more than 0.10 Euro per click on sedo, but on ND they regularly get 0.20-0.35 Dollars, I know the exchange on the Dollar is slightly lower but it's still better.

I also got a $2.39 click on a name on ND the other day, in 3 years on sedo i never got a click higher than 0.50 euro. On ND my AV PPC per month is around $ 0.22 , on sedo it always seems to be 0.09 euro?

Sedo is good but i think ND is better in so many way's, including support, page design, helpfullness & innovation, i just think sedo is stuck in it's way's a bit.

One thing though, i think you are more likely to sell your name parked with sedo, (even if the commision is a bit steep on .co.uk's) But if ND implemented a sales & catalogue section on their site i reckon they would wipe the floor.

IMO :-D

 

[aquanuke]

But if ND implemented a sales & catalogue section on their site i reckon they would wipe the floor.

IMO :-D

Oh yes that would be most welcomed. When you look at DNJournal and see 99% of .uk sales came from Sedo. Even with the higher click values at ND those big sales are too tempting.

 

[retired member 1]

Oh yes that would be most welcomed. When you look at DNJournal and see 99% of .uk sales came from Sedo. Even with the higher click values at ND those big sales are too tempting.

Nothing stopping you listing all your domains on Sedo, parking with Namedrive with the "Enquire" button, that way you get people who come to your domain and use the "For Sale" link and also the people who browse Sedo looking to buy.

(Also if the offer comes though Namedrive you have no fees to pay)

 

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[SF]

Yup Namedrive for me, a couple of months back a tried sedo and made nothing, not even enough for a stinking burger.

With Namedrive I can eat like I king! :mrgreen: