Wanted: Domain Appraisal a couple of names

[Oceanic]

Picked up...

pets-for-sale.co.uk
animals-for-sale.co.uk

recently, I know people here are a little anti hyphens but given the strength of the key words and we know google does not penalise for the use of them, anyone think they are worth anything, I was going to monetise with adsense initially but may put a classifieds site on the first one perhaps?

Any thoughts?

Cheers

Steve

 

[olebean]

reg fee ..

 

[doodlebug]

Try to avoid them hyphens > here's an example I own a-p-m;co;uk, if I had apm;co;uk then I could quite easily get £500 for it on here but with the hyphens I can't give it away

 

[Oceanic]

yes but who searches for the words or phrases "a" "p" "m" or even "apm"??

apm is not even a generic phrase is it?

 

[doodlebug]

You're correct about apm not being generic but intial domains do go for good money, it's the same with any hyphen (almost) the hyphen just knocks the value off by loads.

My domain selling site is made up of 2 words and I don't own my domain selling site as the hyphenated version and I'm not going to waste my money doing so, quite simply I couldn't give a donkeys hat about it.

Put them on Ebay, they will be 2 of the best names on there and I'm not taking the p*ss.

Good luck

 

[Lucky Luke]

I've gone off hyphens over time, but I did reg a bunch of hypenated .co.uk domains recently because of the traffic they'll attract and not because of the resale value. So for your domains, I reckon it's the traffic that is of interest.

From google keywords (old version), "pets for sale" gets 33k uk exacts pcm but the average cpc is not so high. "animals for sale" gets fewer uk exacts.

I reckon you could do something with the first, but there might be better ways of spending your time - depends on your portfolio.

 

[Oceanic]

You're correct about apm not being generic but intial domains do go for good money, it's the same with any hyphen (almost) the hyphen just knocks the value off by loads.

My domain selling site is made up of 2 words and I don't own my domain selling site as the hyphenated version and I'm not going to waste my money doing so, quite simply I couldn't give a donkeys hat about it.

Put them on Ebay, they will be 2 of the best names on there and I'm not taking the p*ss.

Good luck

I think this hyphen thing is bit of a misnomer, it is well known that Google does not treat it any differently to domain without them, so for a site targeting keywords it must be useful to have at least the keyword right in the domain name before you even start?

I own another one which is in the top 10 and makes me about 20 squid a month and I do nothing for it other than occasionally change the page layout.

 

[accelerator]

I'm seeing 33,100 UK exacts on [pets for sale], so I think this one was worth picking up. You have the search traffic so I expect you could monetise it OK through AdSense.

Rgds

 

[Oceanic]

I'm seeing 33,100 UK exacts on [pets for sale], so I think this one was worth picking up. You have the search traffic so I expect you could monetise it OK through AdSense.

Rgds

Thanks, someone sees the madness to my logic

 

[bensd]

I own another one which is in the top 10 and makes me about 20 squid a month and I do nothing for it other than occasionally change the page layout.

I assume you mean you own another site which is on the first page of google for it's keyword?

If this is the case you may be better in putting your time/effort/resources into building this site out and move it up the first page!

 

[Oceanic]

I assume you mean you own another site which is on the first page of google for it's keyword?

If this is the case you may be better in putting your time/effort/resources into building this site out and move it up the first page!

I have a hyphenated domain to do with something else completely, but it a "for sale" one and it generates adsense revenue.

 

[doodlebug]

In terms of online marketing maybe it does work regarding
SEO but even a generic domain still needs to be worthy of branding for offline marketing, in other words it as to be >
pronouncable, rememberable and easy to spell, hyphenated domains fail on the first 2.

The internet is big but in terms of sales, only a small percent of world wide sales are actually carried out online so that's why I prefer non hyphenated domains as they work so much better offline and that's how businesses will look at it.

Good luck with getting it ranked

 

[retired_member34]

it is well known that Google does not treat it any differently to domain without them

Is it well known?

 

[Oceanic]

I think so, Matt Cutts even confirmed on video.

 

[retired_member34]

I think so, Matt Cutts even confirmed on video.

I see that quoted a lot. Matt Cutts has said a lot on the subject of hyphens. He said back in 2006 that Google doesn't see hyphens as a spam signal. He said at various times that Google sees hyphens as a delimiter, and recommends using them rather than underscores in the url path. He also said that Google does not penalize for use of a hyphen in the domain name. Did I miss any others?