best place to sell domains/flip ??????

[bakais]

Hi all,

As a new domain er and now own just 73 domains a pick a mix of com, biz, info, co, mobi, have listed them on Sedo, afternic, godaddy however have not sold any yet

We used sedo price suggestion as a guide price etc, paid for 2 homepage featured listings , one domain: musicdab.com has been listed for 3 days now and got 42 sales views but as yet no bids.

My question is I have read on here that most people don't like using Sedo etc because it takes a long while to get the domain and get paid etc: So do you guys buy and sell through forums such as this one and is it a pay with paypal and domain push through say Godaddy???

Thanks in advance and advice needed to sell.

 

[EdwinEdwin is verified member.]

Good domains sell themselves. Bad domains never sell. So-so domains sell at a push. You need to sit back and evaluate your results and decide what kind of names you're holding.

 

[bakais]

Thanks for such a quick response, I chose: musicdab.com because on Google keyword search 'exacts' Music has: 2,240,000, and 'dab' has: 135,000, The 'dab' upon Google it, has quite a few meanings however when typing in dab into search it gives a digital audio broadcasting results and supposed to be the new tech in radio/music etc.

Any thoughts on that name yourself, do you think it will be a nugget?

 

[philiporchardphiliporchard is verified member.]

If you search for 'music dab' on Google, there are no advertisers on the right hand side - I doubt the term gets lots of searches either...

Not a nugget of gold - that's for sure.

Sorry.

 

[bakais]

Thanks for you reply, I used Google 'exact' keyword search tool, and yep it gets lots of searches. Cool though I never thought to: Google and see any advertisers on the right, just did and and found you are right. Did the same for just the word: music, and that go none either?? Now I am puzzled.

Bought another domain last night: laceoff.com because when you google lace off it comes up with wigs, clothes, fashion etc, and......... just followed your method and "yep" that has advertisers on the right, so is that new name maybe worth a few quid?

Sorry to be a pain.

 

[bakais]

Ooh one more, just did the same: (music dab) advertisers test but on Google.co.uk and it has 1 advertiser : Amazon.

but with; lace off, on google.co.uk = none, but yes for google.com

 

[DomainPortfolio.ukDomainPortfolio.uk is verified member.]

No ads showing for "lace off" on google.co.uk or google.com on that term for me, I would say, stop wasting your money, try to buy domains that actually mean something in the real world, you'll get nowhere with names like that.

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Google keyword tool shows there are less than 10 searches per month worldwide for that term.

 

[bakais]

Yes, please see screen shot If it uploaded correctly

 

[Jamie101]

No ads showing for "lace off" on google.co.uk or google.com on that term for me, I would say, stop wasting your money, try to buy domains that actually mean something in the real world, you'll get nowhere with names like that.

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Google keyword tool shows there are less than 10 searches per month worldwide for that term.

I agree with that. Stop wasting your money and start researching things more.

Just because two terms have a lot of exacts doesn't mean that you can put them together and have a brilliant domain unfortunately. If only it was that easy

 

[DomainPortfolio.ukDomainPortfolio.uk is verified member.]

Not sure why it's showing ads for you, I checked Google on .co.uk and .com using Opera and IE browsers, and not a single ad appeared on any of them. You could take any better available term and make a domain out of it including the word lace, you'll get more ads showing lace related items just because it has the word lace in it, but it doesn't relate to anything specific.

You only need to look at the search results to see the term is pretty useless, examples in your screenshot such as:

Cutting the lace off that front wig
How to cut lace off your full lace wig
Cutting lace off my wig
Charming Organza and Lace Off-Shoulder A-line Wedding Dress
Vintage Grunge Goth Black Lace Off Shoulder Velvet Crop Midriff....
White Lace Off The Shoulder Gypsy Top

It means something in the descriptions above as it relates to doing something, as in cutting a piece of lace off a wig, which is not something you could monetise. I suppose you could make a site about cutting lace of wigs, the entire page content of the site could read, take a pair of scissors and cut the lace off, done :lol:

The other clothing descriptions only use that term as part of a longer phrase/description, on it's own, it means nothing and is worthless.

 

[EdwinEdwin is verified member.]

garden - high exacts
cheese - high exacts
garden cheese - worthless

(replace the above with any 2 random words and it stays true)

 

[bakais]

Okay, okay, I get the point but still have faith in both names: musicdab and laceoff, because have you seen the weird names that gets sold lately, "they don't have any searches or meanings" but yet gets sold??? So....... watch this space lol, will be back laughing if we sell them (lol or crying if not)

 

[retired_member36]

Ill have the tissues waiting for you

On a serious note, the advice given has been spot on. Have a read around the forum and register or invest in meaningful domains. Another tip, i would only register a domain that you could personally develop incase it doesnt sell!

 

[sdsinc]

First of all, there is no such thing as 'best place to sell domains/flip'.
As said above (domaining gospel): Good domains sell themselves. Bad domains never sell.

Only register domains that actually make sense and have a clear purpose, and preferably commercially viable.
Do not register domains that you would not be willing to develop.
Ignore automated appraisal tools, they are worth shit.
Focus on established extensions (.mobi .biz .co ouch good luck with that).
Try to slow down the regs, registrations are fun, renewals aren't - especially when you have had zero sales to recoup your money.
Paying for featured listings: another mistake... As you can see, exposure doesn't help if nobody needs your domains.

You need to do more research. Nowadays pretty much anything that has value has been registered. If you find a 'great' name still available, think again.
Put yourself in the shoes of an end user. Why would someone want to purchase your domains, while there are millions listed on Sedo and Afternic. In fact people will usually settle for a fresh registration in the pool of whatever is left rather than turn to the aftermarket, unless you have a solid domain they want at a down to earth price (value for money).
Domaining is not easy, otherwise everybody would do it. Majority of domainers are losing money.
Good luck.

 

[BREWSTERS]

There ought to be a 'theory test' for new domainers before they can open an account at a registrar.

 

[robrob is verified member.]

Okay, okay, I get the point but still have faith in both names: musicdab and laceoff, because have you seen the weird names that gets sold lately, "they don't have any searches or meanings" but yet gets sold??? So....... watch this space lol, will be back laughing if we sell them (lol or crying if not)

Two quick questions:

Where did you hear about buying / selling names out of interest?

Did reading this forum encourage or dissuade you from 'investing' in such names?

 

[bakais]

There ought to be a 'theory test' for new domainers before they can open an account at a registrar.

Hi, @brewster, don't talk down to people you do not nor have ever met it is just plain rude.

will take a theory test if you take a "people skills test?"

 

[bakais]

Two quick questions:

Where did you hear about buying / selling names out of interest?

Did reading this forum encourage or dissuade you from 'investing' in such names?

Hi Rob,

Originally we used to only buy domains for sites we were developing etc BUT THEN, came across on the CNN news site and on bbc about people domain flipping etc, after a weeks research and browsing forums and domain news sites learnt that could buy and sell domains and make profit if the keywords are valid and if a made up domain name could be something catchy and brandable.

Then came across some guys called: kevin ham and mike mann started to follow their profiles, m,mann was the first to sell a .co for $80k, so thought what the heck and started buying, so far bought 73 in less than 4 weeks, now to sell a few to buy more.

These sales are what motivates us, I know there are a few negative comments on here or taking the mick ones, but hey if you don't try you will never know correct

 

[EdwinEdwin is verified member.]

Mike Mann has 400,000+ domains. That's like fishing with 400,000 hooks. You're almost bound to catch a fish sometime. However, he also know what he's doing (which is always a bonus!)

If you can only fish with a few dozen or a few hundred hooks, you HAVE to fish, very very patiently, where the vast overwhelming majority of fish are.

That means .com or .co.uk, strong commercial terms, and be prepared for a LONG wait until your name sells.

Kevin Ham is probably the most successful domainer on the planet (although Frank Schilling could give him a run for his money). Reading about him and then starting to register domains "based on what he does" is like reading about Usain Bolt and then rushing out to submit your entry to the men's Olympics 100m race. In practice, 99.9999999% of people in the world aren't going to qualify, and the 0.0000001% who do will have trained intensively for years and years.

BTW, you may not like the tone of some of the responses in this thread, but they're coming from people with over 50 years combined experience in the domain industry. That's expertise that money can't buy, handed to you free on a plate if you're just willing to listen and learn!

 

[Nova]

I'm new to this as well but happily recently sold my first domain name. I have taken a lot in by reading posts on this forum. Buying names is easy, selling is hard.

As for your domain names that you have mentioned, I reflect what has been said. Mixing two good apples doesn't make one super apple, in your case it made something different like an orange. Google analytics is good but you cant take two good exact matching names and mix them to create another good exact match. Just test the new name as an exact and see what Google analytics comes back with.

You could argue the names are brandable but brandable names seem to be harder to sell compared with generic names, as you have to find the buyer that wants it and that is willing to spend money branding it.

Just put pride to one side, listen to what advice is given, take it on board and move on. I have registered a couple of howlers in the past, but its a learning curve and only cost me about £8 each for the learning experience so no damage done.