Blocked domains

[grantw]

Hmmm, as well as blocking domains that infringe their TM it appears that Google is now dictating what domains can and cannot be parked at Namedrive :

Hello,

Unfortunately our partner advertiser has asked to block the following domains.

I apologize for this inconvenience. Please contact me if you have any questions.

xxxxxxx.co.uk
xxxxxxx.co.uk
xxxxxxx.co.uk

The three domains blocked had nothing to do with google and one of them is pretty much generic IMO. Anyone else had this? Would also be interested to know if this is also happening at Sedo and other Parking sites that use a Google feed?

Grant

 

[bb99]

Can you tell us what the domains are?

 

[grantw]

Can you tell us what the domains are?

The one I consider most generic is anonymizer.co.uk

the other two have TM issues but are not related to google in any way. I can understand one of these two being blocked as it is very risky and one I would delete if I could (wont mention it here). The last one is ann s*mm#rs related ?!?

Grant

 

[aquanuke]

I had a couple blocked but they did have google in the url, so all's fair. Without knowing what yours where cant comment.

edit as you just posted..

cant see a problem with anonymizer.co.uk

Did ND say which domains where blocked, cant remember if they told me or if I just checked the ones with Google in them. This was a few weeks back.

 

[grantw]

Blocking anonymizer.co.uk seems very odd to me, don't get it at all.

Grant

 

[rob]

From another forum

I've had some information (from a trustworthy source) that google is cracking down on t/m names and has begun distributing lists to parking companies of domains that will no longer have ads served on them. Apparently the blocking is going to come into effect soon and they will be blocking out names at the network level so a particular name won't show google ads on any google based parking company. Haven’t heard anything about the numbers of domains this will effect but it would seem like a big change from the previous policy of just reacting to submitted complaints.

plus:

I typed my domain's url in google and this page was the first result:

http://research.microsoft.com/URLTracer/S3.htm

 

[grantw]

That will be the answer then. Cheers Rob.

Grant

 

[aquanuke]

umm thats crap, I'll end up with alot of blocked domains then.

Who supplies the feed on this parked site? Or what other alternatives are there.

http://www.aircon.co.uk

 

[grantw]

This could potentially become a nightmare if you own the .uk domain of an equivalent .com company that is trademarked ie. anonymizer.co.uk then you could well be stuck for somewhere to park it?

Grant

 

[grantw]

umm thats crap, I'll end up with alot of blocked domains then.

Who supplies the feed on this parked site? Or what other alternatives are there.

http://www.aircon.co.uk

aircon is @ streamic, not sure what feed they have.

Grant

 

[grantw]

aircon is @ streamic, not sure what feed they have.

Grant

Streamic is still in Beta so you can't officially sign up.

Grant

 

[aquanuke]

Thanks, Theres no info at http://www.streamic.com just a picture. Where do you go to sign up/contact them?

edit.. haha you keep doing that today, everytime I post something you anwser before Ive said it. Must be clairvoyant

 

[bb99]

It would be helpful if the parking companies doing the banning (under the instructions from Google) could provide a little more information rather than just blaming Google.

But yeah, it looks like it's because Anonymizer is trademarked.

However it isn't that clear cut is it, because you have US trademarks, UK trademarks, European trademarks and many more. Then taking the UK, you have multiple classes of TM. Just because a TM is registered in a particular class (eg cheese making) and you're showing parking adverts for something else (eg trouser manufacturing) then you're not really infringing are you...

Strikes me as being something of a naive measure or, dare I say, throwing the baby out with the bathwater. But then what do I know.

 

[aqls]

Streamic is by introduction only, and will go public in the next couple of weeks.

I can't but one of forum members can.

They have 3 feeds AFAIK one of them google.

Maybe all tms should be pointed to generics?

-aqls-

 

[NameDriver]

Hi Guys,

Sorry for not saying anything earlier, I was traveling back to Germany.

- The Google issue a few weeks ago and the TM issue today are essentially 2 separate things. The first being an internal shake-up which is really looking at protecting the Google brand aggressivley, Lord knows, they've been lax enough about it in the past. The second being a list that was sent to us yesterday out of the blue. We've had one or two requests for this in the past, but not on a large scale. Blaming Google certainly looks like the easy thing to do, but if they come to us and say, block these, we won't be showing ads on them any more, there's sadly little else we can do, however irrational their actions seem to us, and belive me, we fought for a lot of the less-obvious names such as the one Grant mentioned.

- It's hard for us to be the duck in the middle of the domain owners and Google who are not the most responsive company at the best of times. We are trying to find a work-around and will always fight our corner and your corner, but if Google decide they're no longer going to return ads on a domain, there's little more we can do than comply and inform the user as soon as possible so they can look into doing something else with it.

- Streamic seem to have been lurking for some time. I know that they have at least a Google feed but not sure what else. Should be interesting...

Feel free to PM or email me if you have any specific questions.

Ed

 

[paravan]

Thanks, Theres no info at http://www.streamic.com just a picture. Where do you go to sign up/contact them?

....Sent PM

 

[grantw]

Ed, do you have any idea if this is going to go further? The domains I've had blocked have fairly obvious tm issues I suppose, can we expect Google to start blocking typos etc??

Grant

 

[NameDriver]

Hi Grant,

It's hard to say. Having been to the last two main TRAFFIC events, the topic of Google+TMs also comes up and the answer is typical Google which, when typed, normally includes a lot of "..." and sentences that trail off towards the end.
The fact is that Google know as well as anyone else that they make a large amount of moeny from parking names that could be considered 'unclean'.
However, we have seen before that Google will sometimes act without fully thinking their actions through. Back in January, they blocked a large number of our IDN domains simply because they all began with "xn--". Anyone who knows IDN domains know that they all start like that. Meaning some of the names they blocked were the equivalent of football.de, news.ru etc. We have a very good relationship with them on both a personal and professional level as they are fond of tech-rich companies. In the aftermath of something like this, we can normally talk to them to clear the air. Particularly as most names that we block go straight onto another Google feed parking company (namely one mentioned fairly often on this forum ..) This, added to the fact that some of the names that they blocked were purely generic domains which the jealous owner of a lesser domain wanted to block advertising on (effectively taking over Nominet's role) means that we will certainly put our point across strongly to them. It is interesting that the large majority of the affected names were UK names and we're asking them why that was.

I think there is still a long way to go before Google will be looking at Typos etc, but Google move so fast in some cases that it's really hard to know what to predict. I personally think it will be some time before there is a flood. The fact is that traffic will still be there, whether the Google ads are or not, so somebody's going to be there to monetize it...

Ed