britainsgottalent.co.uk sedo bid £100,000

[aZooZa]

I have just picked up on this thread...

Someone needs to look at the Data Protection Act, going by the current registration details of that domain and the vague description of how information is used, which was posted earlier.

 

[WaftyCrank]

Regrettably this will cost £3k plus the legal advice. That stinks, but that's the policy and we have to live with it** :twisted:

Why will it cost £3k + VAT to get legal advice on this issue?

 

[bb99]

Why will it cost £3k + VAT to get legal advice on this issue?

It costs £3k + VAT to appeal a DRS, that's what I meant. Legal advice is on top!

 

[fairplay]

Why will it cost £3k + VAT to get legal advice on this issue?

Guess it stops whose who have a case but are limited on funds??

 

[fairplay]

Can anyone PLEASE help by providing what they believe is a good Appeal Document?

As I'm hoping that pros here can help and we can take this to a new and more transparent level.

The BGT.co.uk scenario can be the "FIRST" to return an obvious wrong decision and name, to people without fear of reverse hijacking and that could go a long way to making matters, true and just!!!!

 

[fairplay]

Why will it cost £3k + VAT to get legal advice on this issue?

You guys are the experts and in the main Nominet members - So please, you tell me??

If this were a situation where someone didn't have that kind of cash what are they to do?

This has cost Fremantle a lowly £750 to take it to the "Expert" and they already know the owner cannot afford to fight them so if or should I say (when) the so-called expert finds for them they've had a result. If not and Nominet has the audacity to stand in their way, they think well 3K is a drop in the ocean so we'll spend that too and we'll still have had a result.

However the probability is, going by the historical results where big business is concerned on the Nominet site (99% win) that Nominet wont dare to find against them so they figure, well this name is going to cost a few hundred pounds this way, Nominet wont dare stand in our way and we'll get it for a pitance!!!

We never even considered that they could conceivably win this given our obvious claim to the name but in this case guess who told us this was the way Fremantle were thinking?

*** The Nominet DRS employee who was supposed to be mediating and I find that very disturbing - What do you/anyone think of that??

Was the owner bound to lose from the start????

This is a case where a company 'Fremantle' actually agreed to buy this name, all that had to be resolved was price but then someone in their collective decided - NO lets just steal it instead, its easy and it will only costs us a few quid....

I'm still hoping Fremantle will come good on what they promised to restore my faith in humankind as I was brought up to believe if you did a deal with or promised someone something, your word is your bond and you have to deliver but I'm not holding my breath.

 

[fairplay]

I promise never to go on Britains got talent, this has infuriated me

Please say WHY, although its probably because you feel like a lot of people on here?

It IS so important that the Rights and Wrongs are spelt out here. So that those involved in the situation know that their decisions are under scrutiny - at all times!!

You are a respected member of this forum, so a simple paragragh could make all the difference!!

I'll leave to you..

Thanks, A.

 

[rob]

What is the relationship between yourself and the user 'Footprint' ?

And again, what relationship do you ('fairplay') have with the owner?

 

[grantw]

What is the relationship between yourself and the user 'Footprint' ?

I'd also like to know the answer to that! This whole thing has had 'dodgy' written all over it from the start!

Grant

 

[fairplay]

What is the relationship between yourself and the user 'Footprint' ?

And again, what relationship do you ('fairplay') have with the owner?

Sorry Rob couldn't answer this earlier because as a new member I was limited to 7 posts and then I couldn't post for 168 hours, or one week!

However that's been resolved with the help of admin - thanks.

I don't have any relationship or know who footprint is???

And to the owner question he is family.

 

[fairplay]

I've just read the rest of this string and I thought I'd mention I dont know Kass either.

I got involved here because someone posted the experts decision on the forum and knowing what went on and the hurt and pain it has caused, I wanted there to be some kind of record outside the submissions that were made to Nominet. There is in this string a degree of scepticism which is the norm for any forum but I really came here for help and advice on a way forward from indepedent people who know this business.

This is a simple case where a big company made a promise to buy a name that predates a tv show by over a year and then went back on their word, whatever the name is worth is secondary, that is up to the parties involved, the most important thing is they proved nothing in their case and Nominets terms say they must.

They then wouldnt mediate and because their case didnt have a leg to stand on, and to force the expert to read additional evidence under the 'exceptional circumstances' rule they accused the owner of placing an ad in one of the most prominent UK newspapers online and this was proven TO BE A LIE by the Editor of The Times.

Then even when the expert could find nothing, she makes a decision based on an income that does not exist and this is wrong, no-one should not be able to get away with this.

If anyone can read that pdf and say the expert was right then please let me know, if anyone can help then please do the same as we have to get back to Nominet as soon as possible.

Thanks..

 

[rob]

If you intend to take it through the courts you may need to show you have exhausted all existing routes ie. DRS, Appeal etc so ensure you do not miss any appeal deadlines.

 

[sneezycheese]

If you intend to take it through the courts you may need to show you have exhausted all existing routes ie. DRS, Appeal etc so ensure you do not miss any appeal deadlines.

...Rob - I'm to understand this is not the case unless you are intending to apply for Judicial Review of Nominet, where even then I think a case could be brought on the grounds of the lack of affordability of the £3,525 inc. VAT Nominet Appeal Fees.

Regards,

Sneezy.

 

[fairplay]

If you intend to take it through the courts you may need to show you have exhausted all existing routes ie. DRS, Appeal etc so ensure you do not miss any appeal deadlines.

Thanks Rob, my understanding at this stage is it doesn't go to court, although I suppose this could be considered outside of Nominet. However the question that has to be asked and would be at the back of anyones mind in this position is:

If in a case that is so clear cut (yet a seemingly independent expert) can find in favour of a company who have proven nothing, been found to lie, and manipulated a structure like this, what chance a decision on in their favour after paying more funds to Nominet?

Can anyone be sure of a fair deal here????????

 

[fairplay]

If you intend to take it through the courts you may need to show you have exhausted all existing routes ie. DRS, Appeal etc so ensure you do not miss any appeal deadlines.

Just as an aside to the owner kept all lines of communication open at all times, he invited Fremantle to resolve this amicably, the DRS agent also on behalf of the owner invited Fremantle to agree between themselves.

Fremantle chose to ignore all attempts to do so....

The owner never even knew the man responsible for building the whole case for Fremantle was no more with the company until (because of industry feedback) he called this mans direct line for it to be confirmed he was history!!

 

[fairplay]

...Rob - I'm to understand this is not the case unless you are intending to apply for Judicial Review of Nominet, where even then I think a case could be brought on the grounds of the lack of affordability of the £3,525 inc. VAT Nominet Appeal Fees.

Regards,

Sneezy.

This is very interesting Sneezy, if not in this case, to anyone who is watching this string.

You guys have got bundles of experience, lets "TELL PEOPLE" what their alternatives are, because I'm sure they dont know

We have tried to contact Jim Davies of bounce.co.uk fame and have left a message on his mobile yesterday but no answer as yet - I hope he comes back soon, like tomorrow!!

 

[fairplay]

As soon as the owner has a reply back from Nominets top solicitor I have suggested we publish it and any reply he makes here.

Do you think that is a good idea?

Or would it damage an ongoing relationship, although the way things have gone I dont know that, that relationship is worth worrying about??

 

[rob]

Is acorn a good venue for making public the woes of the DRS? I think all here knows the good and bad already

 

[philipp]

I don't understand why the respondent isn't working on re-branding his investment. Surely it would be a sensible approach to move to another domain (some good suggestions above) and start getting the site members used to visiting the new domain.

All the best,

P.

 

[Admin]

As soon as the owner has a reply back from Nominets top solicitor I have suggested we publish it and any reply he makes here.

Do you think that is a good idea?

Or would it damage an ongoing relationship, although the way things have gone I dont know that, that relationship is worth worrying about??

Please do not publish anything legal here without checking with me first, I am a Nominet member and need to respect any confidentiality clauses such correspondence may carry.

Admin