domains.co.uk appoint 10yetis for their PR work

[crazihos]

I don't think leasing will fly. I'm certainly not going to build a business around a domain that could be leased to another party when the contract expires. Oh your competitor came in with twice the amount, so we went with them.

They probably have an upward only rent review in place with 3 year terms with renewal guarantees and maximum rent inreases set into the contract like they do with commercial property.

That would stop them just cutting the contract and renting to the highest bidder.

 

[wb]

Hmm, would need to see an example leasing contract really for further information. Perhaps there will be some kind of clause in there about what happens if penalisation occurs due to something the lessee has done (on balance of probability). It's something I would like to find out more about though.

If it did happen, I wonder if Google or other search engines would be understanding from the domain owner's point of view when explaning that it wasn't being operated by them and get it unpenalised? Could then mean that the owner gets substantial damages compensation and a clean domain to lease out again.

 

[foz]

They probably have an upward only rent review in place with 3 year terms with renewal guarantees and maximum rent inreases set into the contract like they do with commercial property.

That would stop them just cutting the contract and renting to the highest bidder.

What would be the standard commercial property lease 3+3 or 3+3+3. With rent reviews in between. Those reviews would be open to market pricing. So if the market wanted to pay twice to three times, the current leaser would have to come to the party or void contract with the lessor.

 

[Frog]

What would be the standard commercial property lease 3+3 or 3+3+3. With rent reviews in between. Those reviews would be open to market pricing. So if the market wanted to pay twice to three times, the current leaser would have to come to the party or void contract with the lessor.

The weird thing there, is you could rent a domain at the fair market price of £500 a month. You do a lot of work, and get dozens of link from the bbc, telegraph, sun, mirror, FT and Guardian and the like. The work you are doing is increasing the market value, which is going to go against you at the price review. And if you decide to leave, you can't take those backlinks with you, they stay pointed at the domain.

 

[crazihos]

What would be the standard commercial property lease 3+3 or 3+3+3. With rent reviews in between. Those reviews would be open to market pricing. So if the market wanted to pay twice to three times, the current leaser would have to come to the party or void contract with the lessor.

Commercial leases are more frequently granted for terms of 15 or 10 years, often with break options in favour of the tenant.

Rent reviews are normally every 3 years - ours was upward only but there was a reasonable limit on how high it could go each time so the owner couldnt double it or anything silly.

The worst thing about leasing commercial property was that once you sold your business you had to have a fecking good solicitor draw up the contract as if the new business owner defaulted on the rent the landlord had the option to come after you for any rent owing - they could do this for 10 years following the sale!

Sleepless nights if you get that part wrong!

 

[Pred]

this may work on the odd one, but especially at these prices i just don't see it.
businesses aren't that stupid surely?
it's hard enough to sell or get advertising on quality domains let alone lease
i appreciate there are some great domains offered

for all reasons mentioned though earlier why lose all hard work put in for something you don't own

plus as prices SO high just to lease any potential suitor would surely just buy a generic in another extension on aftermarket? and work on seo to do well which absolutely works

again even if using for a campaign you are better off owning domain

if it's ploy so people offer a sky high sum to buy then great. i thought that's what this domain leasing malarkey was all about?

just bang some prices on and get them sold lol, stop this charade

 

[wb]

The solution to all this could just be including a buy out option on the lease

 

[Edwin]

this may work on the odd one, but especially at these prices i just don't see it.
businesses aren't that stupid surely?

If you're a big company with a major ad budget, and you want to take advantage of the ease of recall, credibility and other benefits of a truly TOP name, and if that name is owned by a company that only leases, then there's only one possible way forward...

And if you are the owner of those TOP names, then you're holding all the cards as, at the very top level, companies have no alternative but to deal with YOU.

 

[julian]

the whole model of this leasing shite is a complete flop for the lessee.. only a complete muppet would pay those sums..

where do I sign

 

[BREWSTERS]

maybe
but as Alan Sugar said noone should call themselves even an entrepreneur, that is for others to call you, if applicable
serial entrepreneur is just too much lol
and self appointed, well...............

Sometimes his Lordship doesn't know what he's taking about.

Definition of an entrepreneur - "someone who organizes a business venture and assumes the risk for it"

Saying you're an entrepreneur isn't the same as saying you're 'pretty' or 'handsome' - more like saying you're a 'painter and decorator', it's a statement of fact, not opinion.

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Maybe they can lease a better domain name to 10yetis...

 

[Pred]

If you're a big company with a major ad budget, and you want to take advantage of the ease of recall, credibility and other benefits of a truly TOP name, and if that name is owned by a company that only leases, then there's only one possible way forward...

And if you are the owner of those TOP names, then you're holding all the cards as, at the very top level, companies have no alternative but to deal with YOU.

to buy, possibly, yes, i would hope
not to lease, for reasons i gave
there are other options and other extensions, and as we see, if you price yourself out, they'll just use a page /example on their existent site
time will tell

 

[Pred]

Sometimes his Lordship doesn't know what he's taking about.

Definition of an entrepreneur - "someone who organizes a business venture and assumes the risk for it"

Saying you're an entrepreneur isn't the same as saying you're 'pretty' or 'handsome' - more like saying you're a 'painter and decorator', it's a statement of fact, not opinion.

I'm aware of definition , but 99% of people when asked would just say they're 'self employed' or 'have own business'
if people want to call you an entrepreneur then great
my point was 'serial entrepreneur' is just too much, imho

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Maybe they can lease a better domain name to 10yetis...

my thoughts exactly