Domains with link profiles

[martin-s]

Well if 9/10 domains you can't sell, then why would people want to pay for lists full of rubbish?

You sell 10/10 of your domains immediately? I'm impressed!

The fact is that 90% of domain sales is timing. If I went out and registered 500 backlink domains today, I sure as hell wouldn't sell all 500 tomorrow.

I'm not sure why you're obsessing on domains being rubbish. If their stats are listed in front of you, presumably you wouldn't pay for anything you didn't rate.

 

[Systreg]

Martin, give me 10 names and I'll register them, if I sell them, I'll give you half, then you give me another 10 names, rinse and repeat

 

[martin-s]

How much will you charge to 'reveal' the name?

No idea. Perhaps a combination of £5/£10/£25/£50 depending on link profile.

The rest is just a trust issue

 

[martin-s]

There are other ways to find domains, for example spidering Dmoz and large directories, etc. It's not all about dropping names.

Indeed. But if you had to guess, what percentage of people on here focus primarily on drop lists?

 

[martin-s]

Martin, give me 10 names and I'll register them, if I sell them, I'll give you half, then you give me another 10 names, rinse and repeat

Nice try

 

[Murray]

There are other ways to find domains, for example spidering Dmoz and large directories, etc. It's not all about dropping names.

Yes, you can use Xenu, dmoz clean up quickly though.

But if you're looking for bbc links, use Xenu to scan through the bbc.

Then check all the broken links for FTR domains

Then Moz let you use their ose api for free and you can use a Google Doc to check 50 of the FTR domains at a time.

There will be nothing of any real value FTR though, that is why I don't do it.

 

[Edwin]

As a little experiment, it took me 2 minutes to find a FTR domain in the B2B->jewellery category of Yahoo directory. Xenu then Watch My Domain Pro on the "no such hosts" results.

 

[Edwin]

Indeed. But if you had to guess, what percentage of people on here focus primarily on drop lists?

20%? Less? It's not that many...

 

[martin-s]

As a little experiment, it took me 2 minutes to find a FTR domain in the B2B->jewellery category of Yahoo directory. Xenu then Watch My Domain Pro on the "no such hosts" results.

pearlswholesale.net? Not something to get very excited about if so!

 

[martin-s]

Just for a bit of a further illustration:

In 2013, Google indexed about 60,000,000,000,000 webpages
(http://mashable.com/2013/09/27/google-15-anniversary/)

Majestic knows about 2,543,433,960,331 (about 8%)

OSE apparently includes 90,000,000,000,000 'urls'

Yet both of them regularly miss links from major authority domains - both follow and not.

 

[dragon]

pearlswholesale.net? Not something to get very excited about if so!

Not meaning to poke holes but you keep saying £xx is nothing to get excited about but you said you'd sell the domains for :

No idea. Perhaps a combination of £5/£10/£25/£50 depending on link profile.

Plus building a system to list domains (that ppl on here have said not that interested if cant see the domain) will take more time(money) than just listing on acorn?

 

[martin-s]

Not meaning to poke holes but you keep saying £xx is nothing to get excited about

The reason selling domains for £50 isn't exciting is because by the time all of the paperwork has been done on a manual sale, you don't make a great deal.

On a platform where someone just clicks 'Buy' and pays with their credit card, there's no manual effort. It's just bulk-load them in, automate the invoice and payment, job done. There's not even a transfer, because I never owned the domain in the first place.

Moving towards systems that make you money without an increase in effort is the golden rule to becoming wealthy.

Plus building a system to list domains (that ppl on here have said not that interested if cant see the domain) will take more time(money) than just listing on acorn?

Probably 3-4 hours tops. Everything I need we've used before on other projects and we are a software company with a library of stuff ready to just plug-in.

 

[Edwin]

Why not build it and let the market determine pricing?

By that, I mean launch it at the max price you think it's "worth" and if enough people bite, that's your price. If not, gradually drop the price until you see a steady stream of customers (or until you've found - through actual testing - that the demand you thought was there just isn't).

It's always easier to lower prices than to raise them, which is why I'd suggest doing it that way round...

Oh, and you can always offer a certain number of freebies or discount codes so that you can get a bit of word of mouth going - again, that's assuming that what you're offering has the kind of value you hope it does.

 

[martin-s]

I just wanted to see what the level of demand was like on here first to be honest Edwin. I was really thinking of it as as much of a community thing as a profitable service - and it's not like I'm not busy enough already!

A few people have expressed an interest (thanks), but I'm keen for more feedback people have about what information they'd need to remove the sorts of objections raised so far.

 

[Murray]

I'm keen for more feedback people have about what information they'd need to remove the sorts of objections raised so far.

So would people be paying for the domain based on the metrics you list without knowing the actual domain?

 

[Dextron]

tbh I'd be interested in this and know a few others that would too, i think it's a really good idea. Theres loads of times I'm after a backlink domain DA20-30, ideally within a specific niche for a dodgy blackhat project and if you have a way to point me in the right direction which saves me the hassle of running xenu/scrapebox/netpeak et all then I think it'd be money well spent!

 

[martin-s]

They wouldn't be paying for the domain itself, just for the details of it. But yes, it would have to be unseen, based on statistics and trust.

I haven't been around on here too long, but I'd hope anyone I've dealt with so far would see me as trustworthy.

 

[dragon]

The reason selling domains for £50 isn't exciting is because by the time all of the paperwork has been done on a manual sale, you don't make a great deal.

On a platform where someone just clicks 'Buy' and pays with their credit card, there's no manual effort. It's just bulk-load them in, automate the invoice and payment, job done. There's not even a transfer, because I never owned the domain in the first place.

Moving towards systems that make you money without an increase in effort is the golden rule to becoming wealthy.

Probably 3-4 hours tops. Everything I need we've used before on other projects and we are a software company with a library of stuff ready to just plug-in.

Fair enough, Could you post some on acorn anyway to gauge interest? (Edit: Not actual domains but in same format you mentioned previously)

Guessing they'd get a refund if someone else registers before them?

 

[martin-s]

tbh I'd be interested in this and know a few others that would too, i think it's a really good idea. Theres loads of times I'm after a backlink domain DA20-30, ideally within a specific niche for a dodgy blackhat project and if you have a way to point me in the right direction which saves me the hassle of running xenu/scrapebox/netpeak et all then I think it'd be money well spent!

Good to know, thanks.

 

[Edwin]

I still don't understand why you can't post some real examples if you've got "lots".

I'm not looking for freebies, but surely the best way to prove the value of something is to provide a little "taster"?